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Escalated? Jes' sayin', that's all.
Just look at their ever-changing claims, and how they're expressed.
It's like reading copy from car salesmen, but with longer words.
And I'm not the one making wild claims and trumpeting that they're absolute fact; I just put forward a conjecture, which was clearly phrased as a conjecture.
Try asking them for evidence, and the true reply should be "Oh, well we received 1,148 photons from kinda that direction, sorta, but we can't really be entirely sure which direction they came from, or what they were bounced around by, on the way", but they talk as if what they partially expound is graven in stone.
Real scientists don't inflate vague ideas to sound like they are the Word of God.
Car salesmen annoy me, too.
And don't get me started on insurance guys.
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It is a news source, not a scientific paper. And news articles that don't inflate ideas generally don't get as much attention. Scientific papers, on the other hand, do a much better job at expressing them as more of a probability with a given confidence level than news articles. But they're also harder to read.
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Granted, but quotes like:Quote: “It's just really cool that we can watch planets orbit other stars, and awesome to see by eye Keplerian motion in action,” says Wang.
... don't fill me with confidence, given that he has no solid proof of that he's looking at is what he says it is.
Even when raving about something, the phrasing should be along the lines of "If this is what we think it is, then it would be~~".
That's how scientists, rather than car salesmen, talk.
They'll probably decide it's something else, in a few months, and talk just as assertively about their new great discovery.
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Yeah! And the Earth is only 10,000 years old as well, so yah boo sucks to that! 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Hey!
Jehovah says that it's only 4,000 years old!
(One of those morons gave me a book, once, which claimed that Carl Sagan agreed with that figure!)
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Time is running out on a system that never had an unplanned downtime. I once went three days without Windows Update (or a Flash upgrade)
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Wow... That's a story - '93... what did I do back then? I think I was doing Turbo Pascal...
The sources must still be around here anywhere... *starts to search* 
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My 20 year old TP source is (or should be anyway) all on my NAS. I found and ripped the HDD from my parents old 486 a few years back. (Mildly surprised that the 20 year old drive was still readable; even if I had to find an old PC with a pata port because my USB-PATA dongle wouldn't connect to the relic for some reason.)
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Note: I am very aware that a post like this can be seen as a political "statement:" I'm posting this here because it is, imho, tech industry news; I do not intend this post to be a political statement, or an "incitement" to political discussion, or argument (we do have the SoapBox for that).
Apple's Tim Cook and Google's Sundar Pichai comment: [^]
Reuters reports that holders of valid (green cards) from the seven "no entry" countries are being denied boarding: [^]
NYTimes reporting on tech industry reaction, and that H1-B visas are affected: [^] also reports on travelers being detained: [^]
Bloomberg reports that Google is recalling staff from abroad: [^]
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
modified 28-Jan-17 23:42pm.
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Dogs that bark do not bite. He (D.T.) will come down to reality as soon the people who elected him will recognize the mistake 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I agree that this is tech industry news, although a bit different than usual.
I just saw an interview with a Qualcomm executive on the local news channel. He voiced his concerns about their employees from any of those countries who may currently be abroad and those planning to go abroad on vacation.
The company I work for must have employees affected by this, so I expect there will be some sort of statement posted on our internal web site by Monday morning.
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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While this may be industry news, I respectfully disagree with posting this here since any attempt to comment on and/or disagree with the opinions of those at the links will likely be considered soapbox material. Any attempt to correct some of the false information presented, would also likely turn into soapbox material.
In short, you are able to post opinion here without fear of substantive disagreement.
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I don't think there is a problem having a post here and have it refer to a different post in the Soapboax for comments. However, I know it can be difficult to abstain from commenting on something as big as this has turned out to be.
The big industry leaders are speaking out, including some of the 16 members of Trump's Advisory Council.
An official message has been posted on my company's intranet. I am not going to repeat any of it, but I am astounded by the low number of employees in our organization initially affected by this.
Disclaimer:
Any comments are intended to be completely objective and may or may not reflect my personal opinion. In no way do I speak on behalf of or claim to represent the official or unofficial stance of my employer.
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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One fine day in January 2017 I was reminded of something I had half-noticed a few times over the previous decade. That is, younger hackers don’t know the bit structure of ASCII and the meaning of the odder control characters in it. And get off my lawn, dang kids!
And of course he's referring to the 'proper' use of the term hacker.
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Thanks Kent, I had almost managed to forget the hell that was handling octal conversions in CGI gateways when I was a young buck learning to code.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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For a moment i got really excited reading down the sub-headings there. A few months ago I'd asked a question about why 8bit byte computers won out over 9bit ones that no one here could answer. But it turns out he just noted that they existed and pointed to some of the legacy cruft they brought forward to the present.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Microsoft is working on a variety of robotics-related projects, some public, some not, across the company. "We are programmed just to do anything you want us to"
After you've applied all appropriate patches, and upgraded the robot to Win10, of course.
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With the release of Visual Studio 2017 RC3 it is now possible to attach to .NET Core processes running on Linux over SSH. This blog post will explain how to set this up. I had to include it, as just seeing that title made my head 'splode
Now I have to find all the pieces (again).
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We have made the decision to expand our current Certificate Authority efforts to include the operation of our own Root Certificate Authority. Of course you can trust them - they do no evil {/sarcasm}
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While the devices are primarily designed for businesses and developers to get used to Microsoft’s mixed reality world, anyone can technically purchase the headset. World domination: augmented reality edition
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If there were an anti-KickStarter web-site, I'd donate: [^]Quote: The Stein-O-Matic app is the user’s guidebook and control system for directly engaging content. Using the app, you have access to new activities added to the Stein-O-Matic every day. In addition, Professor Einstein’s robust reward system allows you to earn IQ points, which you can use to unlock special items, bonus games and avatar upgrades.
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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I wish these kickstarter things had comment sections.
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For "backers" only.
I'm not giving them a couple of hundred bucks for the privilege of calling them idiots.
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Can't wait to see the Trump version.
Marc
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