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This is McVomits: they confuse cr@p and food! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: how do you mix up Bacon and sausage?
You can ask these guys: Makers of Artisan Bacon Sausage[^]
I did not opened the link so no idea what you would see on that page.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Sugar dissolves in water, arsenic dissolves in water.
The latter solution is better for those who think sausage is bacon.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You can't. They are both pork. How do you mix pork with port?
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If seriousness is permitted in this thread...
You may be unable to understand that for some people, distinguishing between two alternatives has no value, at least in a given situation. If you reject any sort of alcholic beverages, to you, distinguishing between spirits, wine and beer is not necessary. To me, distinguishing between different car brands is more or less without value. To a good American, distinguishing between political movements to the left of the Democrats makes no sense. To immigration authorities, a five year old kid is indistinguishable from a known IS member carrying a machine gun. ("Moslems are evil. You are a Moslem. Therefore you are evil".) To a HiFi freak, the label on the amplifier front is fundamental to distinguish between different makes, to a music lover, label differences matter nothing but sound differences do.
It is all very culture dependent, and dependent on your personal preferences and "morals". You may have to lay your morals and opinions aside at work, and do the job you are paid to do - or quit that job. Here in Norway, hospital workers (doctors, nurses,...) may, on religious grounds, refuse to participate in any abortion, without loosing their job - but in such cases, they are required to refer you to some other that will do the job. If you, for religious reasons, don't want to serve pork (or alcohol) to someone, you may ask the management to be assigned to tasks that causes no such problems.
But I can easily see situations where you simply forget that putting apples and oranges into the same basket is due to your own morals, ideas, cultural background, whatever. I may confuse car makes. Others may accidentally overlook the difference between a Java application and a Javascript application. I have seen a telephone salesman selling a wireless DECT telephone to a 80+ yo customer who really was trying to buy a cellular (I tried to intervene, but the old man trusted the salesman more than he trusted me).
In my work, switching between programming languages, I now and then scratch my head for a long time over a compiler message until I realize that I am using a Python construct in C#, or the other way around. Or I move a script from bash to cmd.exe, or the other way around, getting strange errors because casing is significant in one, not in the other. I can stare at such scripts for quite a few minutes before I realize the cause of the problem: That I didn't distinguish between objects that are distinct, or I assumed that they are distinct but they are not, not in this context.
If that MD employee was a jew, say, off work he would probably have no reason to distinguish between sausage and bacon. So if he happens to argue the same way at work as he does at home (when explaining to his kids that they will not have hot dogs is the kid's birthday party), I can certainly understand it. That is not to say that I will defend it. But I am not surprised that it can happen. It is just like me not keeping languages apart. Or immigration decrees not distinguishing between different kinds of humans. Or a salesman (deliberately or by ignorance) mixing up DECT phones with cellular phones.
Such mixups occur all the time. It makes no sense for people to whom the tiny details are essential. A few of my colleagues are shocked when I give them a blank stare when they refer to, say, 'that fellow with the white Class D Mecredes', I am "shocked" when they cannot tell the time measure on some tune. We shouldn't be shocked. We should just note "OK, so you don't care about the details in that area. Maybe your interests go in other dirctions".
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Well, it could be someone who is not allowed to touch "pork" just not caring because it violates what is true in the world for them!
As in: I can't eat this. I should not handle it. Scr3w them.
And suddenly that makes me more nervous IF he gets it right!
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So, all you experts, I'm looking to move my FlowSharp app to a browser. Should the core tech use the Canvas element or the SVG element? There seems to be pros and cons to both, and I don't have enough experience with either to make an intelligent decision, but it seems rather important to choose the right one from the beginning.
Appreciate the feedback in advance.
Marc
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But surely there's a spiffing framework you can use? Just plug arcJs into canvasSgv using the latest MVCCMVMCVMVC architecture to leverage server side client API generators. 
veni bibi saltavi
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: using the latest MVCCMVMCVMVC architecture to leverage server side client API generators.
Send code plz! 
Marc
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(MVC)4
Software Zen: delete this;
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As much as I know all the latest graphics engines in JavaScript uses HTML5 canvas, mostly via WebGL...
If you want to do it yourself, check WebGL[^]...
Or search the web, you may find this too - What is Unreal Engine 4[^], which is probably too much...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Interesting, but both are too much for what I'm looking for -- basic 2D shapes, texturing and shading is totally unnecessary. That said, maybe I should set my goals a tad higher.
Marc
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It sounds like SVG will do what you want. SVG is (as the name implies) vector graphics, basic shapes, etc. while the HTML5 canvas is more about bitmap manipulation. This is not to say that both cannot do both but for line drawing, scaling drawings, etc. SVG has the edge perhaps.
I have a web-based application that draws stylized 2D maps and SVG works great. I actually use jquery.svg.js to assist although I have been trying out raphael.js recently.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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What do you use for your SVG drawings? I'm using AutoCad, because it has the technical, i.e. geometric features I want readily accessible, much more than my other tool, InkScape, and Expression Design seems to lack them altogether.
I love AutoCad, but it seems a but of overkill, and there's a conversion process I haven't got to yet because I haven't finished my first drawing, a line diagram of the Qabbalistic Tree of Life, with layers for the Sephiroth, the Paths, the Hebrew glyphs, and the other symbols.
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I have an application I wrote myself to generate the SVG drawing parameters. My most commonly used objects are simple hexagons or partial hexagons, circles, squares plus a couple of complex images of mythical beasts done by hand.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I've actually even considered drawing the diagram on an A3 sheet of graph paper, the manually just copying the co-ords into SVG. The paper drawing itself will be so much simpler and quicker than with a cad tool.
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If you don't have to do it repeatedly, sometimes graph paper and a pencil works best!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Fast and "dirty" and better supported at the moment: SVG
Long (more middle) term: HTML5 Canvas, great "standard"
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I'm still waiting for W3C to accept my HTML <WinForm> element proposal 
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Sander Rossel wrote: I'm still waiting for W3C to accept my HTML <WinForm> element proposal
Don't I wish!
Marc
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cytoscape.js. Simple and awesome!
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Sanjay K. Gupta wrote: cytoscape.js. Simple and awesome!
Looks impressive. But I'm not really looking for a charting package, but more something that can, for example, be used to create flowcharts. cytoscape seems overkill?
Marc
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depends what you want to accompliah
if want graphics that basic shapes could make, and marked up, and interactive the same as "normal" html markup is (like hover and click events), then SVG
check out d3.js[^] all that is SVG and document driven interaction.
If have specific graphics stuff that you need to do, and do not care so much about user interaction (unless you look at libraries and want to deal with Pixel<> object mapping relations), then Canvas your thing.
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Wholeheartedly agree.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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