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It would be interesting to see the how a reverse strategy would perform. Over time, will people bet on the eventual recovery over the short term dip?. . ..
Mark Hazleton
mark.hazleton@projectmechanics.com
http://www.projectmechanics.com
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Maybe have two bots - designed oppositely 
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I love the way that Max is using Trump's BS to raise money for good causes and one has to wonder, if enough people were on board, whether reversing the direction of trade could actually reverse the Trump factor in a huge way. Company X roll over to Trump and their shares plummet. Company Y stands up to him and their shares soar. That, in itself, sounds like a great thing - ethical investment forcing companies to behave in a civilized manner - but the more that you think about it, the scarier it gets. Bots could be used to drive all kinds of agendas in a similar way and an awful lot of people don't have very nice agendas.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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Initially, people assumed that a Trump tweet would bring a business down. But in the last couple of weeks, any negative tweet he's made seems to have had a positive effect on the businesses. Although, it could swing the other way too I guess.
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From a short period when I was doing commodities options trading I learned a few things (a/k/a painful lessons):
One of these is that the market(/moves), in reality, is fueled by bullshit.
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Amen to that. I jumped on board with the Robinhood[^] crowd around May last year and decided to give stock trading a go. While I may be up, I would be easier to calculate the most probable path of a photon originating from the core of the Sun then figure out what causes market moves.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Well, if you know the stock in question is going to move BIG time but don't know the direction, you can always buy vol
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread 
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W∴ Balboos wrote: ..the market(/moves), in reality, is fueled by bullshit.
I talk about this in my 2009 book. Here is an exerpt...
The Dreaded Bimbo Factor
One thing I couldn't stand about the stock market is what I call the Bimbo Factor. Let me explain with a hypothetical situation...
The CEO of a company, whose stock price is $100, has a wife and family. He also has a mistress in every major city that he frequently visits. Everything is going ok until one of his mistresses decides to threaten to expose their relationship to his family. In a panic, he siphons one million dollars from the company's retirement fund to pay off this mistress with a huge diamond ring. Word gets around to the other mistresses and they begin to make the same kinds of threats. In a short while, the company's retirement fund is completely depleted. Two years later the lack of money in the retirement fund is noticed and this triggers an investigation. When the reason for the investigation becomes public knowledge, the stock plummets to $1 per share.
Basically, the Bimbo Factor states that one random act from a single "Bimbo" can bring a multi-billion dollar corporation or even an industry to near collapse.
However, not all hope is lost. Given the right Bimbo Factor opportunity, you might be able to buy a $100 stock for $2. And for some reason if the company recovers from the situation, you could potentially have a 5000% return on your investment. Generally speaking, though, that does not happen.
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't quit.
You're welcome.
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Not at all the point I'm making. Real life example:
I had oil options contracts during the Iran/Iraq war. An Iraqi naval ship fired on an oil tanker coming from Iran. So what do you think happened?
The price of the oil contract (and underlying futures, of course) dropped like stones!
The reason given - the day after the drop, of course - is that investors now feel that now the large military powers will get involved and protect the oil traffic, thereby making things safer.
Now THAT is bullshit!
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Ignoring the issue that President's role is to promote macro-economic benefits instead of spruiking individual companies. Y'know - that little ol' thing called the law (which I understand he's actually not subject to in this case: it's only for government employees. But still  )
Uh-oh. Politics alert! Run! Run away!
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Should this thread not be in the soapbox?
Jeremy Falcon
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Up until this point the thread has been exceptionally polite and apolitical.
I prefer to leave this and demonstrate we can actually be grown up and not angry. The thread hasn't blown up (apart from - I hate to say - your series of messages) so let's give everyone the benefit of the doubt instead of assuming the worst.
If it goes bad then it gets locked down.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Your crap belongs in the soapbox. Don't bring it into the lounge. I hear enough of this garbage at work already.
Jeremy Falcon
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Not interested in talking to you either. You like to argue more than communicate.
Jeremy Falcon
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Nish Nishant wrote: Some guys are just creative I guess
Adventurous is the correct word.
If sentiment-analysis takes the wrong conclusion (which likelihood increases if one has to be cryptic because of a character-limit) the bot may be trading on the wrong side.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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thanks for sharing I think I'll either be very rich or very broke with this gadget. Just like the weather, some day it x% predictable, some day it maybe, some day it not.
Bryian Tan
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It would be interesting to see how this works over time - just as a simulation perhaps.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Soapbox man. This thread already started attracted those who can't resist being too political. Not you... but I'm sure people can figure it out.
Jeremy Falcon
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Refer to my other post.
Jeremy Falcon
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It's about an automated bot - not meant to be a political thread. Unless you mean Trump's name cannot be mentioned here
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I know exactly what you mean. In a mature world, we should be able to post your post all day long, smile, laugh and enjoy each other's company. But some people can't hear the T word without making it political, and CP isn't exactly knowing for maturity. It happened in this thread. It'll continue to happen. 
Jeremy Falcon
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It looks like we're headed into a period of trading custom made for the parasitic day traders.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
modified 11-Feb-17 6:27am.
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Nish Nishant wrote: Some guys are just creative I guess
Or way to much time on their hands?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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