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It'll be ok Gary... just think about fluffy kittens. 
Jeremy Falcon
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My fluffy kitten (ok, she's 15 years old and surly) could do a better job than MS on this.
Software Zen: delete this;
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But then again...
Here's how I indent DCL (Digital Command Language) on OpenVMS.
The VT100 emulator I use doesn't allow control over the TAB stops, so it's always eight columns and that's far too many.
So I use one TAB after the leading dollar sign ($) to make a nice margin so my comments and labels stand out.
Then it's a one-SPACE indent for THEN, ELSE, and ENDIF and a two-SPACE indent for statements inside those.
A snippet from my DCL implementation of a Turing Machine:
$! Run the Machine
$
$ offset = 0
$loop2:
$ input = f$extract(offset,1,p2)
$ if f$type(TM_'state'_'input') .eqs. "" then goto eoloop2
$
$ output = f$element(2,",",TM_'state'_'input')
$ move = f$element(3,",",TM_'state'_'input')
$ state = f$element(4,",",TM_'state'_'input')
$
$ p2['offset',1] := 'output'
$
$ if move .eqs. "-"
$ then
$ if offset .eq. 0
$ then p2 = "_" + p2
$ else offset = offset - 1
$ endif
$ else
$ offset = offset + 1
$ if offset .eq. f$length(p2) then p2 = p2 + "_"
$ endif
$
$ goto loop2
$eoloop2:
$
$ write sys$output p2
$
$ goto end
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I also use 3 columns, and have done forever (well, since I first programmed in Ada in the 90s!) The company I work for still has a standard of 3 columns for indentation...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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Heard a nice one today: Explicitly Configured (hard-coded) 
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Almost as good as 'stringly typed' (when string is used as universal datatype for everything).
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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Clearly, we've both seen the same kinda databases before.
Jeremy Falcon
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Not only databases. It gets really sick when something like this appears in the code:
(somecontrol.text = float.Parse(x) * float.Parse(y)).ToString();
x and y are strings, of course. Th use of float.parse() can fail any time when the strings can't be parsed, no checks or a try/catch block. The text property of the control of course also serves as stringly typed storage for the calclated value. And that's only the beginning of the horrors in that ASP.Net web form.
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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About the only logical explanation I can come up with is if they're using like a web service that only has strings for data. Outside of that... 
Jeremy Falcon
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Some people never really get what types are all about. This particular guy would have been insulted after such unwarranted criticism. He was one of those who could recite every rule and convention there may be and believes that everything is well as long as these rules are observed. Who needs to think when some guru already has done that and packaged his wisdom in rules and conventions?
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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Common sense ain't so common man.
Jeremy Falcon
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I have seen that before. In some companies it's the standard procedure to reduce the code monkeys to better typists and keep them in line with rules and conventions. What do you think happens when you try to give one of those poor guys room to think for themselves?
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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CodeWraith wrote: What do you think happens when you try to give one of those poor guys room to think for themselves
I have just heard the exact opposite - outsourced project to Hyderabad and the PM is bitching that the "developers" can't think for themselves and need to be spoon fed every decision.
She now knows the difference between a developer and a code monkey.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: She now knows the difference between a developer and a code monkey.
Yup. In my view a code monkey knows one thing and one thing only... code. <robot_voice>Must... compute... X... Y... Z</robot_voice> And has very little understanding about people, teams, being a good leader or a good follower, how to play poker, anything at all really besides just code.
Jeremy Falcon
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"To a boy with a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail".
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Common sense ain't so common man.
Heard it a different way:
Common sense ... the curse in disguise: Because if you have it, you're doomed to live with those that don't!
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Reminds me of my MBA studies. Yes, business school is the study of common sense (in a capitalist society).
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I think I've worked with that guy. Or maybe there's just a bunch of them 
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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There sure are more of them than we think. The poor guys have been used as code monkeys and stuffed full with rules and conventions. Then, when they finally invented something on their own, they are proud of their unique solution and don't waste any time on thinking about why nobody else does it quite this way. At least not until some wise guy comes along and declares the grand idea to be a code horror. Then they fall back to their old line of defense, which would be patterns, rules and conventions. If you don't break any rules, your solution can't possibly be bad.
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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That sort-of like the people who "round to 2 decimal places" by converting the number to a string, truncating the end, and converting back to a number.
Truth,
James
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You want to tell me that this is not the way it's usually done? 
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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You mean those with the Json/XML/whatnot backing? As if they're "proud" to convert back-n-forth with this "stringly typed".
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varchar(50), to be precise.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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That needs a soft reset.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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