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Check out the Surface Book[^] for an example of how to make something as simple as a hinge ugly, impractical, and a liability in the thin-is-king market.
Or the Surface Laptop[^] for an excellent example of what happens when you have a solid vision coupled with a bunch of monkeys calling the shots. Excellent hardware and they drag it down with Windows S.
Microsoft are constantly *this close* to doing things right. They need a single person with vision at the top who walks around calling BS on the stupid, stupid product decisions that get made.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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 I did not even look at MS when I bought my latest laptop earlier this year. And the office use Thinkpad which I consider an excellent tool.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: I did not even look at MS when I bought my latest laptop earlier this year. And the office use Thinkpad which I consider an excellent tool.
What did you buy? The Daughter bought this[^] last Saturday.
Not bad considering she sits HSC in a bit more than a month, bought an AUD$8K car earlier in the year, put new Mags and Tyres on it and now the laptop.
I put the Mags and Tyres and now the laptop on the interest free card, but she has paid them off in less than half the time required and saved cash for the car and it's comprehensive insurance.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I got a Lenovo of almost the same spec. I do like the bigger screen even if it is a bugger to lug around. It does not travel much on a day to day basis.
your daughter sounds like a real go getter, good on her.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Chris Maunder wrote: Microsoft are constantly this close to doing things right. They need a single person with vision at the top who walks around calling BS on the stupid, stupid product decisions that get made.
Microsoft have needed it for years.. Unfortunately, since Jobs Apple has also needed that person 
Personally, I'm really disappointed in many of the decisions Apple has made over the last few years. Ignoring battery issues on iPhones while doing useless things like removing the headphone jack, going for thinner and thinner instead of making their iPhones waterproof, making iOS less intuitive and with more bugs.. the last few years have been a disaster.
As someone who really used to enjoy using Apple products, there are very few I'd buy these days. That touch bar thingy on the MacBooks looked like a niche feature from day one.. I'd rather have function keys but there's no option for that on a 15" MacBook Pro, so I'm sticking with my 2015 model until it break or is no longer supported. Hopefully by then they'll have someone sensible back in control. 
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Chris Maunder wrote: Check out the Surface Book[^] for an example of how to make something as simple as a hinge ugly, impractical, and a liability in the thin-is-king market.
... and then to add insult to injury their sales team refuses to support the one use case that could have made the whole big tablet + keydock design model justifiable by refusing to sell the new keydock with a faster GPU (the only part of the system worth upgrading every year or two instead of every four to six when you've murdered the battery) separately as an upgrade.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I'm sorry, *BUT*, as far as I can understand referring to Report: Apple-developed ARM chip may appear in updated MacBook Pro this year | 9to5Mac[^], you've probably misunderstood something. Apple is about to deploy the newest MacBook Pro with an extra RISC-based ARM CPU that will be additionally used to perform simple background tasks consuming low-power, while the main Intel CPU such as Core i5 or Xeon E3 will be utilized for more complex tasks and graphics. 
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The sensationalist media reported, and I quote "For now, the new ARM chip would potentially be used for dedicated tasks like maintaining background app activity". Note the "For now" which is there way of saying "Clearly Apple will make a Macbook powered solely by ARM". Surely the weak denial by Apple[^] is further proof of their true nefarious intents.
Because seriously: how else is it possible their BootCamp drivers are so, so bad...
Never credit a lack of any solid business case when wild conspiracy theories will suffice instead.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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But, again, as far as I know, RISC-based ARM chips cannot be used as an entire central CPU for such PCs as MacBook Pro. Those ARM chips the either are not compatible or very slow to boot and run the either Win10 or MacOS. The ARM chips have a slightly different reduced instruction set and are not good for running one of those OS, since it's not like a tablet-PC or a smartphone running Android or IOS. The different thing is that probably Apple is about to create their own improved ARM-based chip to use it as the central processor of their future MacBook Pro PCs. One of them according to the Bloomberg report will be deployed this year. We'll see it...
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Chris Maunder wrote: Apple has been rumoured to be moving to ARM[^] which is great for power, terrible for those who remember moving from PowerPC to Intel
What's wrong with ARM? It's a RISC processor, which makes it a pleasure to program even if you have to do it in assembly. The x86 programming model goes back all the way to the 8080 and often enough makes you feel as if you were back in the 1970s. Thank god we now don't use the Real Mode for very much anymore. Segments, anyone?
The vast majority of users will never even notice the huge differences between those processors. not even most of the developers, who would be too busy fuzzing over rules, styles and conventions in some higher languages to notice that they have another processor.
Where is the terrible part?
The user can't update the up: we update it for them (Choice in the CP poll)
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CodeWraith wrote: What's wrong with ARM?
It is not a MIPS. 
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CodeWraith wrote: Where is the terrible part?
That bit where your old apps you relied upon stopped working.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Yes, sure. That's why I never sold or tore apart my computers. This way I had all the time in the world until everything was taken care of.
The user can't update the up: we update it for them (Choice in the CP poll)
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Chris Maunder wrote: C'mon Microsoft: get your hardware issues under control, give us some serious battery life, and release the hounds. The time is ripe for a Contender.
Yeahhhhh ..Hooo Haaa .. Hooo Haaaa :tribal:
I feel Thinkpad can win things back. Do check the new Carbon X1 2017.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
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Unfortunately I can't stand Lenovo machines. They just don't do it for me...
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I think calling it "Lenovo" as such could be a big generalization, but still you right for the 95%. And The good 5% , I'd say they are trying hard to stick the the IBM standard at least through the Thinkpad lineage.
Even in that, Thinkpad windows Tablets have been truly poor.
But the standard business machines whatever we have, works solid. I'd never look at anything else with Lenovo, other than the Thinkpads. Come on, you gotta love those military standard builds and blinking green LEDs
The other ones I liked were Dell Latitude series. They were decent & reliable as well.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
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The only trouble is, Windows is just so horrible! I'd much prefer it if Apple fixed their issues!
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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My 9 year old iMac finally died a few months ago. Not sure what I was thinking but I bought an Intel NUC and set it up with Windows 10.
Total piece of crap. About 30% of the time it will blue screen (with 1 of about 8 different messages) within 5 minutes of booting. The various messages indicate it might be some driver (but no indication of which), the RAM (which tests fine and works perfectly elsewhere) or the SSD (which also tests fine and works elsewhere).
Maybe your Bootcamp problems are as much about Microsoft or Intel as Apple?
BTW - I'm waiting until October for a rumored Apple Mac event. The Intel NUC may have a very short life.
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Beats the Dutch user who published an article out of the blue after being a member for 5 years.
Talking about late bloomers ... ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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RickZeeland wrote: Talking about late bloomers
He will publish no article, before it's time. Takes a lot of discipline. 
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The number will be eleven, not ten, and also not twelve, nor will he be lead into temptation by halves or decimals
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It's natural prime numbers for us or nothing! 
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Quite the contrast with this other Dutch user, I posted an article almost 3 years before I became a member.
(pm me to bid on my time machine)
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Bravo, that's the spirit 
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