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I'm sorry, *BUT*, as far as I can understand referring to Report: Apple-developed ARM chip may appear in updated MacBook Pro this year | 9to5Mac[^], you've probably misunderstood something. Apple is about to deploy the newest MacBook Pro with an extra RISC-based ARM CPU that will be additionally used to perform simple background tasks consuming low-power, while the main Intel CPU such as Core i5 or Xeon E3 will be utilized for more complex tasks and graphics. 
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The sensationalist media reported, and I quote "For now, the new ARM chip would potentially be used for dedicated tasks like maintaining background app activity". Note the "For now" which is there way of saying "Clearly Apple will make a Macbook powered solely by ARM". Surely the weak denial by Apple[^] is further proof of their true nefarious intents.
Because seriously: how else is it possible their BootCamp drivers are so, so bad...
Never credit a lack of any solid business case when wild conspiracy theories will suffice instead.
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Chris Maunder
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But, again, as far as I know, RISC-based ARM chips cannot be used as an entire central CPU for such PCs as MacBook Pro. Those ARM chips the either are not compatible or very slow to boot and run the either Win10 or MacOS. The ARM chips have a slightly different reduced instruction set and are not good for running one of those OS, since it's not like a tablet-PC or a smartphone running Android or IOS. The different thing is that probably Apple is about to create their own improved ARM-based chip to use it as the central processor of their future MacBook Pro PCs. One of them according to the Bloomberg report will be deployed this year. We'll see it...
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Chris Maunder wrote: Apple has been rumoured to be moving to ARM[^] which is great for power, terrible for those who remember moving from PowerPC to Intel
What's wrong with ARM? It's a RISC processor, which makes it a pleasure to program even if you have to do it in assembly. The x86 programming model goes back all the way to the 8080 and often enough makes you feel as if you were back in the 1970s. Thank god we now don't use the Real Mode for very much anymore. Segments, anyone?
The vast majority of users will never even notice the huge differences between those processors. not even most of the developers, who would be too busy fuzzing over rules, styles and conventions in some higher languages to notice that they have another processor.
Where is the terrible part?
The user can't update the up: we update it for them (Choice in the CP poll)
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CodeWraith wrote: What's wrong with ARM?
It is not a MIPS. 
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CodeWraith wrote: Where is the terrible part?
That bit where your old apps you relied upon stopped working.
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Chris Maunder
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Yes, sure. That's why I never sold or tore apart my computers. This way I had all the time in the world until everything was taken care of.
The user can't update the up: we update it for them (Choice in the CP poll)
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Chris Maunder wrote: C'mon Microsoft: get your hardware issues under control, give us some serious battery life, and release the hounds. The time is ripe for a Contender.
Yeahhhhh ..Hooo Haaa .. Hooo Haaaa :tribal:
I feel Thinkpad can win things back. Do check the new Carbon X1 2017.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
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Unfortunately I can't stand Lenovo machines. They just don't do it for me...
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Chris Maunder
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I think calling it "Lenovo" as such could be a big generalization, but still you right for the 95%. And The good 5% , I'd say they are trying hard to stick the the IBM standard at least through the Thinkpad lineage.
Even in that, Thinkpad windows Tablets have been truly poor.
But the standard business machines whatever we have, works solid. I'd never look at anything else with Lenovo, other than the Thinkpads. Come on, you gotta love those military standard builds and blinking green LEDs 
The other ones I liked were Dell Latitude series. They were decent & reliable as well.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
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The only trouble is, Windows is just so horrible! I'd much prefer it if Apple fixed their issues!
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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My 9 year old iMac finally died a few months ago. Not sure what I was thinking but I bought an Intel NUC and set it up with Windows 10.
Total piece of crap. About 30% of the time it will blue screen (with 1 of about 8 different messages) within 5 minutes of booting. The various messages indicate it might be some driver (but no indication of which), the RAM (which tests fine and works perfectly elsewhere) or the SSD (which also tests fine and works elsewhere).
Maybe your Bootcamp problems are as much about Microsoft or Intel as Apple?
BTW - I'm waiting until October for a rumored Apple Mac event. The Intel NUC may have a very short life.
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Beats the Dutch user who published an article out of the blue after being a member for 5 years.
Talking about late bloomers ... ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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RickZeeland wrote: Talking about late bloomers
He will publish no article, before it's time. Takes a lot of discipline. 
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The number will be eleven, not ten, and also not twelve, nor will he be lead into temptation by halves or decimals
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It's natural prime numbers for us or nothing! 
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Quite the contrast with this other Dutch user, I posted an article almost 3 years before I became a member.
(pm me to bid on my time machine)
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Bravo, that's the spirit 
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harold aptroot wrote: I posted an article almost 3 years before I became a member
That's thinking ahead. But why didn't you post one 10 years before?
Well this is something to shoot for the next time you travel to the past.
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Sometimes people take time to feel comfortable enough to post.
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Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Sometimes people take time to feel comfortable enough to post.
There are places, like Q&A which make you think twice before trying that yourself. Some users really do have the ability to stay clear of trouble by learning from other people's example.
There are several things I stay away from and this way spare myself getting involved more than what is good for me:
- The soapbox. It's the bad part of town where you thank god don't have to go.
- Q&A, not because of some questions as most would think. These can always be ignored, but not the behavior of some people.
- Writing articles after having met a mob with torches and pitchforks in the discussion to an article that obviously went against some of the mob's religious beliefs.
The user can't update the up: we update it for them (Choice in the CP poll)
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That's a cautious comment, hope I didn't step on someone's toes this time with my posts ...
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Quote: Writing is not necessarily something to be ashamed of, but do it in private and wash your hands afterwards.
― Robert A. Heinlein
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I can think of several things that quite quote applies to.
modified 28-Aug-17 19:27pm.
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