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My printer / scanner unit can double as a fax, apparently. Never tried, or wanted to - last time I saw a fax was around the start of the century! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Fax is still very common in international business in lesser developed parts of Asia / Africa, South America, it's not that they don't have email, it's just not that reliable (and lets face it less secure) - fax being analog can handle transmission errors (black dots/streaks) better, and don't come with viruses.
And of course you all know billions trillions of dollars of inter-bank fund transfers are ordered/confirmed using Telex, even with banks right next to each other they will not accept the business any other way including hand delivered.
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OriginalGriff wrote: last time I saw a fax was around the start of the century!
Last time I saw a fax was... never 
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Ah that shines a light on an issue I had recently, I needed to fill a PDF form for a bank recently and the only way they would accept it was via fax. I was quite annoyed that they were so old fashioned, attack vectors were not considered.
I refused to send my banking details via a free fax service, hunting down a real fax machine was a challenge.
I think businesses are in essence forcing the technology to be dumb by only working with a fax, which on their side simply get saved as a bitmap anyway. What they need to do is to let folks send a fax by E-mail, which would be in a FAX type of format (which TIFF seems to be). The E-mail client could check that the attachment is such a file in that format, and it should be no problem.
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Its a least common denominator -- everybody can usually figure out how to send a FAX. Amusingly, many of those places don't actually have FAX machines themselves or deal with the physical paper -- they have a FAX-receiving service that turns it into a PDF.
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We still have some shops where you can pay a good price to send a fax. Haven't needed a fax in some two years now, on my PC or anywhere.
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley
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I recall long ago when email was text and only text and the understanding was that you could not get a virus by reading an email. For you youngsters, i'm going well back into the 90s. I work with a guy that is about my age - all I get from him are plain text emails. It just occurs to me why.
And then Microsoft opened up the content under the explanation "We've determined our customers wanted a more interactive email experience."
Harold, you say "Or in general a dumbing down of formats. Many of the attack vectors are in Weird Features that no one uses, so disable them by default."
I hope you are referring to application providers, not users. How many times does Adobe, Microsoft, etc change a default setting and not tell anyone? For that matter, if they apply to weird features that no one uses, it makes you wonder why they exist in the first place.
I still contend that if you want to make software more secure, hold software makers liable. Want banks to protect your accounts? Liable. Equifax collecting your data and selling it as their own? Make them liable. Microsoft, want to enable "interactive features" by default? Hehehe....
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Yes I meant that applications should start to interpret only the "dumb subset" of fancy formats by default. For example, PDFs can "launch" files. That should produce a warning screen, but that is far from safe, of course users are going to click "do it anyway #YOLO", that's how users are. Just block that whole feature by default, approximately 0% of the non-malicious PDFs actually need to launch a file so this is not a big deal. It might be nice for all 0 users that are affected by this to have an "enable launching files" deep in the settings.
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I usually send attachments in RTF.
I thought that was perfectly safe, opened by nearly everything and WYSIWYG.
Was I wrong?
Have a nice day, all.
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If email treats all content at read-only, it's not an issue.
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It's stupid people like him that keeps the Social Security taxes low.
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If he was smoking in it, he had obviously realized it was already devalued.
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Years ago on way to work, early morning -- still a bit dark -- behind a similar driver. Driver finished with cigarette flicks it out side window.
Cigarette bounces once on road (sparks fly off ash) bounces up & hits my windshield and rolls down into the gap where the windshield wipers are....and continues to smoke. 
I arrive at work smelling like I took up smoking. 
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Yes I loathe people who think that the world is their ashtray. 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Sometimes it's not about how classy those things are, it depends on how you carry them. Try to focus on driving instead.
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I was thinking about web design and how 15 years ago we had to cater to 1024 x 768 screens with only thousands of colours. These days we have 27" 4K screens with more colours than the eye can distinguish and have powerful GPUs that offer smooth animations and effects.
So is there anything you'd like to be able to do in an application's interface that current screen technology can't offer? I'm not talking smell-o-vision or on-screen haptics or stuff like that. Just visuals.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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3D that doesn't give me headaches, but I can understand that's a personal problem.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Chris Maunder wrote: These days we have 27" 4K screens with more colours
What sort of smartphone are you using exactly?
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he has an iHoloPhone
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I read that as imHolierPhone. 
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Projecting are we?
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Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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If they would just refuse to display some of the gawd-awful colour combinations some people insist on using, that would be a help. I sure some of them are trying to induce vomiting...
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