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I wish Tesla the best - I really do. However, I live in Canada, and last winter we've had a few weeks straight of -30C days. I work from home, and I sometimes have no need for my car for weeks at a time. My car stays outdoors, exposed to the elements.
Put all of these together, and there's just no way I'm part of the target demographics.
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There you have a point, electric motors produce less heat than normal gas engines, so they will need an electric heater I think, which consumes lots of precious electricity 
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They could use batteries to power the electric heater.
(where's the sarcasm emoticon?)
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Around these parts, garages can easily drop below zero during Winter unless they're heated.
Also - have you seen how many people actually have a garage, but still leave their car outdoors because it's filled with so much junk they couldn't park their car in it even if they wanted to?
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Well that is the situation today, and clearly the Tesla isnt ideal for all people, in deed its price already excludes it, however the point is that it represents the future of cars.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: it represents the future of cars.
Only if they can bring down their prices by a significant margin, otherwise "the future of cars" means only very few well-off people will be able to drive them.
Not being a naysayer. I'm actually a fan of what they're trying to do.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: the doors (push button, electric)
So if the battery is dead how do you get in to pop the cover (probably also electric) to open the cover for the charge unit? Or put it in neutral to have it towed?
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended.
I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended.
Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like.
Dave
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It's got windows all around. This is nothing that can't be solved with a brick.
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Wow, you dont suppose people who can put rockets in space thought of that and put a limit on how low the battery can go or a mechanical override?
I mean, there you are, a computer nerd at his desk, and you, because you are so sure of your own incredible contribution to the world, can out think huge teams of mechanical engineers!
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"Huge teams of mechanical engineers" still aren't beyond collectively making stupid mistakes. Ask NASA about some of the probes they've lost. 
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I like Tesla, even I can't afford one 
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Out of curiosity I priced up the X in AUD, entry level $146k, top of the range with all the bits $283k, ouch!
I like the looks of the X, the entry level would suit me very nicely but as I bought a Mazda CX5 for $26k (admittedly it was 2nd hand but less than 10k on the speedo) I think I'll just hang on to the extra $120k.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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It is very expensive, and definitely not worth it, but it is showing us the future of the car. That was my point.
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Are you considering buying one ?
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Is irony the opposite of wrinkly?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I steams like it's time to press the issue and really test your metal (the rust of you can watch).
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methinks that one has fallen flat
Signature ready for installation. Please Reboot now.
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Reminds me of a quote from a Spider Robinson novel. It sort of goes …
"If Felons commit Felonies, God is an Iron."
Spider Robinson
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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Now I know why the code written by some recent contractors is full of peonies.
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What led you to think that??
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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It's like goldy or bronzy, only made of iron 
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Here's the deal, Marc Clifton has written an astoundingly good article which I believe epitomizes what CP is all about.
His article is up for article of the month (web) and you can vote for it here :
Survey Voting Form - Best Web Dev Article of April 2018[^]
I Am Not Affiliated With Marc Clifton
I assure you I am in no way affiliated with Marc Clifton but I know an award-winning article when I read it.
Further, my article is in the running for that same contest, but Marc's article is far better and you can tell he put loads of work into it. Please take a few seconds and vote for his article.
Here's a link directly to his article:
Build a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming App with SVG and Javascript[^]
Reason
It's just that when you read an article this good which is so evident that an author put so much work into it, you got to give props. 
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You're right. It's a great article. Just voted.
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others.
Same thing when you are stupid.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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