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We have 2 cats, a dog and 2 children. Prefer the cats and kids as they are more independent now so when we go away for weekends they just need feeding and the rest they can sort out for themselves. Dogs are people creatures and a lot more dependent

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2 cats (total of 5 lifetime)
2 dogs (total of 3 lifetime, actually if you get right down to it I've only had 2 dogs. My current dog has a dog which makes 3. We got my dog a dog so he wouldn't be so anxious. Hasn't quite worked out that way but he is some better.)

Only one out of all of them I prefer would be the very first cat. Sampson took on a dog that was going after my wife and infant daughter when the wife went to the mailbox one day. He was a Maine Coon and live a very long time.

Serial cat owner, here.

I've had dogs, because of the distaff side, but I don't like them.

If you mistreat a cat, it'll draw blood, then bugger off and live somewhere else (and, if you're lucky, they won't leave a "screw you!" farewell gift on your bed) -- you have to earn their loyalty.

Mistreat a dog, and it'll keep coming back for more; so they're great toys for psychos, and good for people who don't know how to treat animals, but I don't want pets like that. They have to stay because they want to, not because they're too stupid to leave.

Oh, and rats. We had two pet ones. They are fantastic pets!

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I have owned both cats and dogs sometimes at the same time. I do not currently have either. Both have their good and bad points; I don't have a preference.

Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.

I had both cats and dogs, a while ago.
I liked dogs just a bit more than cats.

I grew up with a boxer, we had an irish setter when I had a young family, nearly as dumb as afghans. Later we had a couple of mongrels who grew up with my kids.

Oh and we had cats, rats, guinea pigs, budgies but never fish.

Grand daughter has a pet snake we look after sometimes.

I prefer dogs and we get a new black labrador next month.

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Cats don't like me! Or rather, they tolerate me for between half a minute and a whole minute. Then they simply go away, leaving me alone and sad.

But boy, are they beautiful. Especially the big cats - lions, jaguars, panthers, lynx, cheetas, ... Especially the way they move. Maybe, for my own safety, it is a good thing that cats shy away from me.

I communicate without problems with any dog. I am not afraid of meeting a wolf out in the forest - they are genetically identical to our domestic dogs; I used to refer to our dogs as our "domestic wolves".

They can be extremely clever: My decision to buy our first dog was made after I got in contact witn a search dog in operation, at a civil defense training course (it was certainly not a spontaneous decision, but more like the final straw). Dogs can be beautiful in what they do (and the pride and cleverness with which they do it), as opposed to what they are.

Yet... How can you be so clever at doing your job, and still so completely dumb socially? The old saying that a dog will never bite the hand that feeds him is simply too true. You can growl even large dogs into sumbission. Or grab them by their neck and shake them, just like their mother did when they were puppies. In more friendly ways, you can scratch almost any dog so he rolls over on his back, show you his throat, unprotected. Kids can ride him like a horse. (Well, be a little careful here ... they don't have as strong backs as horses - but they won't complain.)

I am aware that dogs/wolves within a pack has a very sophisticated social structure and language. (I would certainly recommend Jean Craighead George: Julie of the Wolves, and its sequel, Julie, for those who like children's books. If you prefer more popular science for adults: Elizabeth Marshall Thomas: The hidden life of dogs. All are great, and easy to grasp, books to understand the language of dogs.)

So what should I do when I can easily get myself an obedient, clever slave that will love me whatever I do, but which I still cannot truly respect, and certainly not "adore"? Those that I most definitely love and adore and fully respect could never be a household pet. At least not in this country.

I just picked up a 2-part BBC Earth TV series about Wild Cats. I guess the solution is to watch the animals I adore on the screen while I scratch behind the ear the dog that adores me. And after all ... I love him, too. Even though he is dumb.

pet rocks beat them all. low maintenance, can live on their own. Great for telling the weather. If its wet, its raining, if its dry, its not. Never whine or piddle in the house. And they're great for delivering messages to your neighbors through the window...

Aren't they somewhat unruly when they get stoned? And aren't they stoned most of the time?

Hmmm, for a very long time the children well outnumbered the pets. At the moment, there is one dog, two cats, and a bird in the house. None of the pets are mine, but one cat is thinking about adopting me. Over the years (I have to think hard now), there have been 7 other cats - all deceased, 8 other dogs - mostly deceased, two left when a daughter moved out. Two of the gone-dogs were Siberian Huskies - never again.

All in all, I think I lean toward cats, but apparently we're no longer allowed to let them outside due to societal pressure (means litter box work).

Don't ever call a cat or a dog a fur-baby in my presence. I will give you a disgusted look and snort in your general direction.

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The definition of Politics;

Poli meaning many
ticks - live by feeding on the blood of mammals, birds, and sometimes reptiles and amphibians.

I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart

I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!

An old song[^] (literally).

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"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

Them country folks is so funny!

I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart

I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!

and poliglot means someone who is happy a lot.

modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.

and a masochist is someone who likes to get screwed over a lot!

I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart

I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!

Hell gods exepedition[^] - most likely Norway's most photographed sign.

Hell is a small village i Mid Norway (location of the airport for Trondheim). "Hell" is derived from "helle", which is a flat, disk like stone.

Gods is goods, cargo. Expedition like in English - receiving and collection point. The spelling is ancient, modern spelling is "ekspedisjon", but they have kept the old sign for the amusement of turists.

There is also a small village near Bergen named Paradis. The train no longer stops in Paradis, but when it did, you could buy tickets from Hell to Paradis, or from Paradis to Hell. I suspect some people just bought the ticket and had it framed to put on the wall - there is not much to do in either place, so very few people had a need to travel that distance by train. (And it would probably take you a full day!)

I guess, with eleven and a half months of winter each year, one takes their laughs where they can get them.

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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

Is also a depressing book by Cormac McCarty Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

Take away the word "good", and it becomes more accurate.

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Is anyone here using Asp.Net Core Razor Pages in production code yet?

If so, do you have any tales of woe or wild advocacy?

".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

I am using Razor in a current project. It's a bit weird at first but, once you get used to it, it's not bad. We are using it with MVC of course for which I can say the same, "it's a bit weird at first...".

Once you get going it can save a lot of time and effort - you need to avoid the temptation to "work around it". There is usually a way to do what you need to without bypassing it. I had to fight my impulses to do that at first.

- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

There's talk about bringing our app out of the asp.net/javascript dark ages to a newer technology. We won't be using Entity Framework (if my vote counts for something).

I've done MVC, and as a site grows, scrolling in the Solution Explorer pane becomes a royal PITA. It appears as if Razor Pages mitigates that issue to a large degree.

".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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