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Aight, different approach; you cost money. What money was earned by having this new "feature"?
Or are we simply doing a Telerik here? 
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Work was done on my own time, no no money was earned or expended in the process.
However, it's nice to know there's a way to do it without relying on the graphic arts skills of some random programmer.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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Today's phase one of a roll out that will affect pretty much everyone in the company. As it turns out, much of what I does is of that nature and I should be used to it.
Well - lots of years of experience - I can outsmart the users at almost every turn. Tested the hell out of it. Tweaked it. All the usual.
Still - it prevents that strange dichotomy of stress and elation.
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And no message was heard from you since
It has been 18 hrs. Everything going as planned?
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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This is the easy part - about 75 of 450 users clicked a link (gently shoved put in their face, with explanation and instructions) on the main portal and "registered". Tuesday, so far, will likely be the big day when it's not an option and all authentication passes through the new route.
User's are authenticated on every page (allows access even via a bookmark) - and the code spans about eight years of development. It's mostly following the same few patterns and is "plug-and-play", enabled by simply replacing the contents of one header file. There are, however, possibly some outliers. I logged in, way before anyone awoke, yesterday, as a regular user on a non-Dev system just like theirs and hit most things - tweaked a few. I even create values no longer of any real use so they're not missed in the older pages and put that tiny text of undefined symbol on their screens.
But it's a bit drawn out awaiting the zap. It could easily be undone by simply replacing the file with the original - but I don't have any system wide faux-pas' on amongst my scars.
As I said, it's phase one. Still active - until a user registers they'll see that instruction screen whenever they open the portal. Come Tuesday (I expect), it's go-live. I'm sure I missed something, somewhere. I'm not worrying about the a few obscure crumbs to clean up - just an exploding telephone.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: I'm sure I missed something, somewhere.
It sounds like you're well-prepared, and even NASA with their budget to triple-check everything see a rocket explode now and then.
Good luck, wish you a boring tuesday 
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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One more add-on (just made active between our emails):
The director and I will be running it as of now - I have a conditional testing for our UID's via our IP's and redirecting the to the new header. We can bang around some more without waking the kids. Importantly, someone other than me can do it.
Thanks for asking!
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There's not many articles on roll-outs, and it is always exciting. Always good to hear about a success
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I'm not sure I have "article" material. Mainly, it's common sense.
Since you seemed interested, here's the result mixed with comments:
Start with a comment:
Sweat the detail before roll-out or sweat a whole lot more after.
Have someone besides yourself push the buttons - they WILL find things. You will not.
As for the results - much angst but only three users had problems (this was an entire new Login management package).
1 - temporary passwords sent by email (provision made for those without email) went nowhere. This was because HR didn't update their records. It went to a black hole.
2 - temporary passwords sent by email (provision made for those without email) went nowhere. This has yet to be explained
3 - nitwit ignored instructions and wondered why his old passwords wouldn't work. The sad part is that this nitwit is in IT (hence, nitwit).
4 - add the extra: two very long days watching my mailbox for any hint of trouble.
All three resolved. Today, I did a check of the password (hash's in SQL table) to see if any were reused. I found a block of six users with the same hash, five of them belonging to a subcontractor group. Mulling over, w/my boss, how we want to handle it.
There are a number of built-in user screwing around prevention feature in place.
Temporary password will only get you to the change-password screen. Period.
Change password forces length and character variations
Change password does not allow change to same password (and I check with case-insensitive, too)
Now, all rolled out and no second shoe has dropped, it's time to tweak things to make them even smoother for users. More events, for example, preventing time-out. A small popup for login if one does time out instead of the login/change/reset page. Customized after users bang around for a while so changes are made to what is relevant.
Only a little of this would make any kind of rule-set. Hardly a footnote, let alone an article.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: I'm not sure I have "article" material. Mainly, it's common sense.
..which is not that common anymore
W∴ Balboos wrote: Have someone besides yourself push the buttons - they WILL find things. You will not.
If you know how it is supposed to work, you're not trying to break it enough
W∴ Balboos wrote: All three resolved. Today, I did a check of the password (hash's in SQL table) to see if any were reused. I found a block of six users with the same hash, five of them belonging to a subcontractor group. Mulling over, w/my boss, how we want to handle it.
More salt, I'd guess
W∴ Balboos wrote: Only a little of this would make any kind of rule-set. Hardly a footnote, let alone an article.
A roll-out is a bit more than just giving someone the link to the software-installer. It cost you a few days, and IIRC, you used a day for preparation.
You're right though, might be more blog-material than article-material.
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Is a Horse Whisperer a librarian with a sore throat?
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Wouldn't she then be known as a neigh-sayer?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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well with books going out of style it may not be stable career for much longer
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With the rein-ge of replies already in, saddley, I don't think I hoof much to offer. I think I'll strep right here.
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I can see ISBN a long day for you.
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Would there name be Lorin Gytis?
Got my site back up after my time in the woods!
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Man, they are proud of their stuff... Eeeet 'spensive Lucy.
I was playing with their Theme Builder. It doesn't provide anything close to an exhaustive theming experience (colors only, and not even all of them), and some of the results are just plain weird, especially if you want to setup a dark theme.
Progress Sass Theme Builder[^]
BTW, "Progress" is a STUPID f*ckin name...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Man, they are proud of their stuff
Currently trying out DevExpress, also proud of their stuff, but very impressed so far.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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They also have impressive support. Or at least had when I used to use them.
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Our shop uses Telerik, so there's no hope of changing to something else. :/
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I've used DevExpress for almost a year now... very happy with their product, and support is quite responsive. Minor updates monthly, with 2 majors each year. I've been really glad we pulled the trigger on this one, and if I had to do it again, I wouldn't hesitate.
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 Thanks for the input! There is certainly no shortage of videos and code samples for their components. I'm finding the gridview (asp.net) to be fantastic, just having added exports for excel formats in a matter of minutes...worked the first time.  Very nice indeed!
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: BTW, "Progress" is a STUPID f*ckin name...
It's to make it harder to search for it on the net -- they're following ms' example, and making the UX as uncomfortable and as time-wasting as possible.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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And they want to control your entire development environment with their dashboard thingy. As a now semi retired single developer their stuff is way too expensive to use and their Xamarin tool box did not seem to offer much over the standard controls.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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