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I tried to book (must be at least my fiftieth booking) through airbnb (which must, by now, have made me a "reliable user" -- and they take the money up front, anyway, so why do they give a sh1t?)
They -- a web-site, mind -- are refusing to complete the booking unless I provide them with a reproducible copy of my passport AND a clear photograph of myself which can be associated with my e-mail address and my passport and with everything else that they and their "partners" have stored in their databases.
Nothing suspicious going on there, is there?
So they have taken my money, and are refusing to provide me with the service I have paid for unless I hand over extremely private information to a web-site.
And we are in Europe.
[cracks knuckles]
This is going to be fun!
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out of interest where going to?
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Nowhere, unless he hands over his whole identity ...
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Just work.
It's a contract in South Holland; too far to commute.
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I am never happy with the whole copying passport thing - I have even been to a couple of job interviews where they asked to photocopy my passport.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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In the UK employers are required by law to ensure that you have the right to work in the country. This usually involves seeing the passport of a UK national, or passport and work permit of a non-citizen. They are required to keep copies to prove that they have requested and seen the documents.
It seems prudent to ask an interviewee to provide such proof before they offer any job.
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And if you don't have a passport as you've not been overseas?
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I believe that other documentation is acceptable - birth certificate etc.
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Michael Martin wrote: And if you don't have a passport as you've not been overseas?
The solution to that is to stop being an American.
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I usually will reply sighting a passport or other ID is acceptable with a good reason (i.e. proof of identity / nationality for work/new bank acct requirements),
but requesting and making / keeping a copy is required for? (In some jurisdictions may be illegal.)
Just curious...
Chris Quinn wrote: This usually involves seeing the passport of a UK national, or passport and work permit of a non-citizen.
EU passport/citizen not enough? (pre-Brexit)
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EU passport is fine (at the moment)
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Sure - I have no problem with showing my passport to someone, I am a little bite more concerned with them saving it somewhere that I have no control over.
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Employers are required by law to keep copies that can be shown to Immigration Service inspectors who can make unannounced visits.
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Chris Quinn wrote: Employers are required by law to keep copies that can be shown to Immigration Service inspectors who can make unannounced visits.
Presumably for employees.
Not for example someone who wanders in off the street looking for directions. Or someone during an interview.
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You would not get an interview if you could not show that you were allowed to work here.
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Perhaps a country difference or even could vary by legal jurisdiction.
But where I live if you collect information on an employee then you are libel for handling it in a way that protects that data.
And that costs money. So for example I seriously doubt that most restaurants ask interviewees (not employees) to show up with their proof of employability unless they plan to hire them right there and put them to work immediately.
Some companies do request that, for an interview, but is a company prerogative and not a legal requirement.
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Chris Quinn wrote: In the UK employers are required by law to ensure that you have the right to work in the country.
Seems reasonable however, as you expressed it, that requirement begins when the work begins.
Not during an interview.
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The location is NL, just down the road from where I'm staying this week.
airbnb are not hosts; they're a web-site.
If a host asks to see my passport (and they often do), I show it to them.
I do not give them a digital copy that they can do whatever the Hell they like with.
A web-site is not allowed to demand copies of such private and important documents -- and they're certainly not allowed to store a copy without my express permission.
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So, where are you now? Did you manage to get your money back?
I am curious because I am going to make a new Airbnb order soon, just to know what surprises to expect.
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I had to pay more than double for a place that's less convenient.
I haven't seen my money return.
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The entire "gig economy" is morally corrupt and you shouldn't be using any of it.
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I'm a specialist.
My time, skills, and life would be wasted, staying at one company for decades.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: I'm a specialist.
My time, skills, and life would be wasted, staying at one company for decades.
Maybe I can't read as well as I thought, but I think he means the Gig Economy in terms of Airbnb, Uber, Airtasker, Deliveroo....
Companies that pay the workers elephant all and are just shite overall. Not your right to work as a contractor as you see fit.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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You could be right.
I assumed it was a reference to the short-term-contract thing, which is kinda my livelihood.
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