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And by some countries, we mean China and North Korea.
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If you find yourself learning C# and .NET and come upon the "Run your first C# Program" documentation you may have noticed a "Try the code in your browser" button that lets you work through your first app entirely online, with no local installation! You're running C# and .NET in the browser! It's a great way to learn that is familiar to folks who learn JavaScript. If it's good enough for JavaScript, it's good enough for C#
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I wonder how those learning .Net are going to grok these instructions to get started:
Here's the experience. Once you have the .NET SDK - Pick the one that says you want to "Build Apps." Just get the "try" tool! Try it!
Open a terminal/command prompt and type dotnet tool install --global dotnet-try
Now you can either navigate to an empty folder and type
dotnet try demo
or, even better, do this!
ACTION: Clone the samples repo with
git clone https://github.com/dotnet/try -b samples
then run
"dotnet try"
and that's it! I'm surprised the article didn't mention .NET Fiddle: [^] ... uhhh ... errr ... maybe a shout-out to LinqPad ?
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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Click on the "Run your first C# Program" link take you to the standard MsDocs page with the cryptically named "Enter Focus Mode" button in a box titled "Try the code in your browser".
It's STILL not exactly a "Start Here! neon sign" experience.
But, it is cool that you get Intellisense and the "you dun f***ed up" squiggly line experience.
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Hi Dave, After reading your comment, I went spelunking through all the orange text in the article to, finally, find a link to the on-line trial.
Clicking the run icon with the default "hello world" content resulted in: Quote: Unexpected end of JSON input
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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It worked for me using the latest Chrome.
Like I said, STILL not a good experience for first timers.
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Hi, I also used the latest Chrome; I filed a bug report on GitHub.
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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Unlike a computer, a human knows when looking at four cats, four apples and the symbol 4 that they all have one thing in common – the abstract concept of "four" – without even having to count them. 1,2,3,4,hrair
No Googling! (I had to as I didn't have a copy handy)
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An interface member can now be specified with a code body, and if an implementing class or struct does not provide an implementation of that member, no error occurs. Instead, the default implementation is used. Because you can never have enough places to add code
I still think those should just be base classes, but whatevs.
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Leslie Nielsen talked about this a month or two ago. It was generally decided that the community is split on the usefulness of such a feature. I personally think it's pointless.
I wonder if you can inherit from multiple interfaces if they all have default methods. If you can, this is handy for getting around the arbitrary single-class inheritance we have today.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
modified 16-May-19 7:08am.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: An interface member can now be specified with a code body
Uhhh ... I can see "Mothers of Abstract Classes" marching on Redmond to protest this one.
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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Misinformation, deliberate blackouts and the worst consequences of big tech are undermining the online world. The Web Foundation thinks it may have a way to fight back. If you don't start behaving, I'm turning the web off!
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Microsoft offers a new snapshot of the data that feeds into its Intelligence Security Graph. And that's just my machine
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You can ask "How tall is the tower in Paris?" and it knows what you're talking about. That was meant to be a compliment, right?
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Is that before or after Paris is killed by Philoctetes?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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public SearchResult DoSearch(string userQueryString)
{
return Google.Search(userQueryString);
}
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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For software engineers, writing becomes becomes the tool to reach, converse with and influence engineers and teams outside their immediate peers. If only there were some place you could practice your writing skills?
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True, but - I'm not sure how much of a correlation there is between the quality of the writing for an article and the article's impact in and on the CP community. I've seen articles with poorly-written text but were very popular due to the topic or the code. I've also seen well-written articles here that only heard crickets when it came to ratings.
Orosz makes a good argument, despite the typos and grammatical errors in his post  . It's almost stereotypical for engineers to hold soft skills like writing and public speaking in contempt. I've experienced prejudice from other engineers simply because I write in complete sentences and I'm not tongue-tied when speaking to a group. They only do themselves a disservice, however.
I've asserted myself more times than I can count to engineering management through considered writing and coherent speech - and achieved the result I wanted because of it.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I find it hard to communicate ideas to people because their attention spans are too short, and like you, I write in complete sentences, and without emojis. I also really like using Oxford commas.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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The executive director of the Eclipse Foundation, Mike Milinkovich now believes that Microsoft is heading for a complete monopoly which might endanger other companies and projects like Eclipse IDE. I'd expect nothing else
If I had a choice between Eclipse and editing my code in Notepad, I might have to think about it for a while.
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Yeah, I'd do Notepad++ in a heartbeat compared to Eclipse. I was meaning vanilla notepad.
I think I'd still go with Notepad. 
TTFN - Kent
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I played with Eclipse once, many years ago, and remember extreme frustration before giving up. If I recall correctly, all the cpp files had to be in one directory! I'm sure I had to have overlooked something, but that was a god-awful experience. And Slow! Hopefully they've improved it somewhat in the years since then.
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Eclipse can't go extinct fast enough.
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One of the beauties of M$ taking a lot of their projects/code FOSS...
If you don't like the direction that Microsoft is taking a project, you can always just fork it and maintain your own version of the project. You can't do that with proprietary code.
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