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A customer of mine was considering a third party product for some functionality they want.
It's kind of a niche market and there is basically only this one vendor in the Netherlands for the product.
There's another vendor, apparently, but they're not very big (and they have bad experiences with them), and there is one company who wrote their own.
So anyway, I just went to this one vendor's website and the login/registration page, where I enter a username and password, company name, business identifier number, email and some other info, and IT'S NOT HTTPS!? 
It literally says "Not secure" right there in the browser and somehow everyone is okay with this!?
And it's not like I went to the HTTP site while I should've gone to the HTTPS site (but seriously, HSTS?) there really is no HTTPS available...
If this is what they're offering I don't have much hope for their services, which is SOAP so my expectations weren't too high to begin with 
The sad truth is that most of their clients don't care about IT and/or security, it's just a necessary evil and a huge cost...
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Sander Rossel wrote: The sad truth is that most of their clients don't care about IT and/or security, it's just a necessary evil and a huge cost...
Until something goes wrong and a lot of money is lost.
Then they'll ask you why you didn't warn them 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Then they'll ask you why you didn't warn them
Oh, I'm going to 
This is a mortal sin and I'm going to smite some IT justice! 
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Sander Rossel wrote: ...something or other...
So anyway, I am currently drinking Dutch Windmill as it is selling for AUD$30.00 a carton and beer prices haven't been that cheap in Australia since like the turn of the century.
Am I drinking the Netherlands equivalent of Fosters? Have you heard of it? On the side it says it is made in the Netherlands so not some Australian company taking the piss.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: ... so not some Australian company making the piss.
Michael Martin
FTFY!
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Affectionately known as Slootwater by the locals.
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I've never heard of Dutch Windmill, but I don't drink beer.
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Bavaria - yes, that's for export
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Well, Honesty goes a long way[^]...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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It could be fixed in about 10 minutes and for free, there are services like cloudflare that will allow you to redirect the dns in order to serve HTTPS.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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My town's council website (a subdomain under .GOV.UK no less) has a Security/Privacy policy that proudly states that all data is secured using SSL protocols and that they take security very seriously. Go to the login, forgot password (which invites you to enter a new password and sends a confirmation link to you), or signup pages - all are on plain HTTP. Of course both my browser and my antivirus barf at that, and I have to explicitly override the warnings. I've told them several times now but they don't seem bothered. For one thing, they don't have many people using the online services. I wonder why not... 
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Sander Rossel wrote: he sad truth is that most of their clients don't care about IT and/or security, it's just a necessary evil and a huge cos
So what profession do you have that might interest their clients, like your employer?
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Their clients (and my client) are all in the meat business, slaughterhouses, butchers, even the breeders.
They deal with (dead) animals, not with IT.
Since it's a multi-million € business that's heavily regulated by the government they can't quite do without IT though, but only the bare minimum.
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wELL, i JUST GOT UPGRADED TO at/t FIBER INTERNET WITH A 1gb RATE, i HAD 100mbS BEFORE AND THIS IS NOTICEABLY FASTER.
sO i{M DOING oK TODAY WITH UNLIMITED 1gb DATA.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Don't you just hate the cAPS-lOCK button?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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WHAT! YOU CAN'T SHOUT PROPERLY WITHOUT IT! 
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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CAPS have more bits and he can afford them now that he's on high-speed fiber.
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Perhaps he can only see CAPS because his screen has too few pixels? 
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It appears you can type faster now anyway. So there's that.
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Never had a fast connection, wouldn't know how to act.
Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine to accept the things I cannot!
JaxCoder.com
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Same as with a slow one, just slightly less time for coffee.
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I don't understand - all I did was whisper softly in her ear "asdfg ... hjkl ... uiop".
She used to love it when I talked Qwerty to her.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Mine used to love EBCDIC!
Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine to accept the things I cannot!
JaxCoder.com
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