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honey the codewitch wrote: Then from there, you pare away what you don't need.
well you can do that, but paring out would have to be done before sales / marketing has any inkling.
once THEY find out what's inside, useful, logical, sensible or no, there's no way they won't be out there promising it to customers.
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How does this compare with the dev model where you create a never-ending project, whose scope is so broad you can only approximate it at any one given moment in time, using only your own code, and, then, spend more time posting/preening about it on a forum meant for socializing, than writing code ?
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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I spend a lot more time writing code than I spend here. And the scope is not broad.
It's a parser generator and grammar translator. The scope is pretty well defined.
It's just big, because of the nature of it.
Right now, ANTLR is MUCH MUCH bigger.
Honestly I don't really think I need or want to be defensive here so scratch that, but I'm also not going to treat you in kind, because I'm not in the mood for drama.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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honey the codewitch wrote: I'm not in the mood for drama.
"How long, oh Lord, how long ?" 
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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as long as it takes. i don't know what your beef with me is, and why it only comes out sometimes, but this isn't the first time you've come at me and I don't get it.
And I find that I really don't want to. But I'm not playing along, so instead I'm disengaging.
Have a good night/day whatever your timezone allows for
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Don't worry about Bill, he is just testing you, did it with me too the first times 
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I mean, if he wants to know if I'm buggy, i sure am.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Rick, remember: the final exam is yet to come
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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Shiver 
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honey the codewitch wrote: what your beef with me is,
I am vegan.
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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Nah, you can't be: you don't start every sentence with "As a vegan, ..." 
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Never throw anything away, Griff
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As a vegan, I take offense!
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Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies. And bacon. Together we will rule the galaxy!
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OriginalGriff wrote: We have cookies. And bacon. Together, along with our cardiologist, we will rule the galaxy!
FTFY.
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Obligatory Commit Strip[^]
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Hah, you're still doing THAT!?
Yes, this method was popular a few years ago, but it has since been perfected and mostly automated.
The new hype is to pick a framework, any framework, load that into your project, and get all the other components for free!
I'll explain it to you so you can keep up with the times.
Create a new folder, open up a command prompt, and install gulp using npm (npm install gulp).
Here's the resulting node_modules folder:
Size: 5.98 MB
Size on disk: 8.85 MB
Contains: 2823 files, 706 folders
The total amount of packages installed is 267
And you were thinking of downloading 267 packages manually? Amateur! 
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You're doing it (very) wrong. You take all the components you can find, glue them into a project (literally - Ctrl-V) then you implement and bill the customer. Next, you use the cash for a long vacation.
Next, the customer requires a minor modification. You're away, so they have to find a "proper" developer instead. They load it up, find it crashes the browser if left open but untouched for more than 90 seconds (yes, there's a memory leaking loop that runs at page load - but hey, anyone stays on a page more than 90 seconds must have died, right?). The new dev then has to rip everything out and start again. Since the customer only requested a minor mod the new dev will get paid an hour's time - regardless of the fact they've worked all week.
Bitter, me? nah...
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That sounds remarkably like the instructions given by a sculptor to a newbie for carving a statue of an elephant:
Start with a block of marble, then chip away at the parts that don't look like an elephant.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Technician
1. A person that fixes stuff you can't.
2. One who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge.
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Hey, far out, man!
/ravi
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"... at the Space Bar"
Bom tish!
You can't let a feed line like that go unfinished, even if it is a Dad Joke.
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I've heard it has no atmosphere!
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With the disclaimer that given the scant available documentation, I'm Doing It Wrong(TM)
So I made this nifty little MRU list and made it so MRU files are shown on the taskbar menu when you right click on the app's taskbar entry. This is not as easy as one would think.
At any rate, there's supposed to be an win32 method you can call called "SHAddToRecentDocs" that's supposed to let explorer/winshell know when you've opened a file or saved a file in your app and it should go in the MRU.
Despite my calling this, my taskbar MRU list managed by windows is not the same as the MRU list in my app (which is more complete)
this confounds me.
The Microsoft function does not work as advertised. Who coulda known?
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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hah it's all good, microsoft is "tuning" the recommended files for you.
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