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dandy727-Jan-20 9:55

dandy72

7-Jan-20 9:55

Well, if you're going to start clean, you may as well do it in a VM since, well, there won't be a physical-to-virtual step.

The problem with any P2V conversion is that the physical machine may have drivers that can cause problems with a virtual machine. Or, at the very least, won't be necessary.

honey the codewitch7-Jan-20 12:40

7-Jan-20 12:40

I got it running and got a state saved from a fresh install so I'm good.

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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz8-Jan-20 4:18

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

8-Jan-20 4:18

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k50547-Jan-20 7:08

k5054

7-Jan-20 7:08

Several years ago, I did some side-by-side comparisons of VmWare and VirtualBox, and discovered that DiskIO on VmWare was a lot better that VBox. I don't know if that's still true. I do have recent-ish releases of both, so I can do some testing and let you know how things compare, if you're interested.

honey the codewitch7-Jan-20 7:12

7-Jan-20 7:12

That would be cool. Is VMware free?

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k50547-Jan-20 7:17

k5054

7-Jan-20 7:17

VmWare player is free for non-commercial use. I like VmWare because I know how to set it up so that when you close the virtual screen, the instance keeps running in the background. Much of the stuff I do is terminal based, with the occasional foray into emacs as my IDE, so not having a gui isn't an issue, for me.

honey the codewitch7-Jan-20 7:27

7-Jan-20 7:27

That's cool. I wish I would have known that before I got halfway through installing visual studio though. I'm going to see how virtualbox runs this. Maybe I'll try vmware if this doesn't work out, but if not it's back to windows as my primary OS.

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter7-Jan-20 8:49

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

7-Jan-20 8:49

I'm running Fedora and used VirtualBox for years to run Windows in virtual machine for SQL server and Visual Studio... It worked great especially the seamless mode... However the fact that you put Windows in VM do not cure its hunger for resources so you still will hit the wall with your setup...

(As today I run SQL on Fedora and use VS Code)

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honey the codewitch7-Jan-20 11:34

7-Jan-20 11:34

Yeah I'm not trying to trim windows. I alloced 5GB and change of my 8GB of RAM for the VM. I'd give it more, but my host OS still needs some room to breathe.

I just was worried it would be too laggy to use, but it runs fine at my current settings.

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Mark_Wallace7-Jan-20 9:57

Mark_Wallace

7-Jan-20 9:57

[Evil bastritch mode]

On Linux, you should use eclipse.

[/Evil bastritch mode]

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honey the codewitch7-Jan-20 10:33

7-Jan-20 10:33

Eclipse crashes all the time on me. MonoDevelop is okay

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Mark_Wallace7-Jan-20 19:31

Mark_Wallace

7-Jan-20 19:31

Then you have to work on the infrastructure that supports eclipse.

You're doing it wrong until 40% of your time is spent on maintaining eclipse.

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honey the codewitch7-Jan-20 19:38

7-Jan-20 19:38

Mark_Wallace wrote:
You're doing it wrong until 40% of your time is spent on maintaining eclipse.

I'm happy with my current setup, thanks Big Grin | :-D

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Thomas Daniels7-Jan-20 10:42

Thomas Daniels

7-Jan-20 10:42

Might be worth considering if you really need a full VS installation -- I fully switched to Ubuntu as primary OS a couple of months ago. My C# development now all happens with .NET Core and VSCode as IDE... granted, I don't use C# that much anymore (mostly switched over to Rust, absolutely loving that language) and it's definitely not an option for you if you need VSIX projects, but it could be worth thinking about Smile | :)

honey the codewitch7-Jan-20 11:07

7-Jan-20 11:07

I really don't like VScode. I don't know why. I like MonoDevelop on linux.

Still yeah, I need VSIX and all that. I write a lot of code generation utilities

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Christian Graus7-Jan-20 10:48

7-Jan-20 10:48

Why would windows in a VM be faster than just Windows?

honey the codewitch7-Jan-20 11:06

7-Jan-20 11:06

I never said it was. In fact I was worried it wouldn't be fast enough. I thought that was clear in my OP.

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Christian Graus7-Jan-20 12:18

7-Jan-20 12:18

So if your computer is too slow, why not just install windows?

honey the codewitch7-Jan-20 12:27

7-Jan-20 12:27

Because windows gets slower and slower over time and my VS seems to like to wreck windows.

It breaks on VSIX projects and then no matter what, no visual studio installation, even new installs will build vsix projects on the machine.

it's ridiculous but it's part of why i'm running in a VM. So i can just restore state and keep developing.

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Christian Graus7-Jan-20 12:32

7-Jan-20 12:32

OK, that's fair. I used to have a cheap notebook I could reset with a keypress, I'd reset it to test installers

honey the codewitch7-Jan-20 13:37

7-Jan-20 13:37

that's nice to have around. Smile | :)

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Christian Graus7-Jan-20 13:43

7-Jan-20 13:43

It was at the time. I was writing commercial software and regularly testing installers

Keith Barrow8-Jan-20 2:04

Keith Barrow

8-Jan-20 2:04

It's looks like I'm a bit late to the party now - but my box is running arch/i3-gaps and VS-code. Not sure whether you need the Microsoft stuff specifically, but it runs fine on a 4 year old MacBook. Wouldn't recommend setting up Arch unless you've a reasonable grasp of Linux, you can pretty much replace it with any linux.

Virtual Box should be fine on linux. The only thing I'd suggest is ditching either Ubuntu and going for a lighter distro, or possibly ditching the Ubuntu desktop manager and using something lighter to free up system resources for the VM - this seems to be a good article it's aimed at Unbuntu server (which Also this which is aimed at desktops specifically . The Mate desktop seems popular, I've not used it. XFCE is very light, I used to use it on an old atom-processor netbook.

You can set the system up so you can choose the environment at login - so you can test things out until you find one you are happy with.

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honey the codewitch8-Jan-20 2:18

8-Jan-20 2:18

I got it running smoothly in ubuntu, with about 5gb of RAM allocated to the VM and 3 for Ubuntu. Everything works except the VSIX test instances

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.