C / C++ / MFC

mcguile2572-Aug-03 14:49

mcguile257

2-Aug-03 14:49

OK I figured it out, thanks for all the help guys. The problem was part of my code, namely GetProfileBinary. I fixed it, so it's all good.

I finally understand all this stuff. Thanks.

Anders Molin3-Aug-03 7:31

3-Aug-03 7:31

Christian Graus wrote:
As an aside, if I were you, I'd look at why you need the C runtime, because where you are using C, you may find that C++ provides a better alternative anyhow.

Why do you always do that?
Trying to "correct" people. I use C all the time, for a lot of things I like the good old CRT functions way better than the C++ counterparts.
I often prefer C with Classes Wink | ;)

And one thing that really sucks, is seeing the "I know better types" saying such crap all the times.
There have been other people saying the same, so I'm not the only one Wink | ;)

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Christian Graus3-Aug-03 11:55

3-Aug-03 11:55

Anders Molin wrote:
Why do you always do that?
Trying to "correct" people.

Because if someone asks a question, I presume they want an answer ?

Anders Molin wrote:
I use C all the time, for a lot of things I like the good old CRT functions way better than the C++ counterparts.

A lot of old timers or people who learned C first because of the inadequacy of universities tend to cling to C. And sometimes C provides a better alternative. I have written whole apps in C, and some of my C++ code relies on the CRT. But, for example, C style file handling and string handling are both ugly as hell, and most people who use them have no idea that they are using C and that C++ provides a better alternative. Many people I work with have been thankful that I took the time to pull their programming into the 1990's by showing them these things.

You'll note that I said 'you MAY find that C++ provides a better alternative'. If you can't tell that this means I am making a suggestion and not saying that all dependancy on MSCVRT needs to be obliterated, that's your problem.

Anders Molin wrote:
And one thing that really sucks, is seeing the "I know better types" saying such crap all the times.
There have been other people saying the same, so I'm not the only one

You and all the others can go to hell, collectively. If I *don't* know better than the person asking the question, why the hell would they ask, or why would I try to answer ? I've made a suggestion, for free. If the original poster does not like it, that is fine. If you, as a third party feel the need to throw your 2 cents worth in, one just has to wonder why. If the C++ community as a whole didn't tend towards ignorance of the difference between C and C++, and the existence of the STL, then I wouldn't have to presume that a lot of people who use antiquated methods do so because they don't know better. I try to avoid just posting 'use the STL' without making suggestions on whatever method the person *is* using, but if the STL would tend on average to provide a better alternative, then an answer that does not say so is incomplete. Excuse me for trying to help.

Christian

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OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window.

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Anders Molin3-Aug-03 12:43

3-Aug-03 12:43

Christian Graus wrote:
You and all the others can go to hell, collectively

Get lost!
At least I thought you could take what I wrote. But excuse me Sir for not agree with the way you always try to get people to use what *you* think is the best.

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Christian Graus3-Aug-03 13:00

3-Aug-03 13:00

Anders Molin wrote:
At least I thought you could take what I wrote.

That's the pot calling the kettle black, doncha think ? I at least explained myself, you're just abusing me for having an opinion and being willing to share it.

Anders Molin wrote:
But excuse me Sir for not agree with the way you always try to get people to use what *you* think is the best.

I'll assume that as English is not your first language, you were incapable of understanding my last post. Get an English speaker to explain it to you.

Christian

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Anders Molin3-Aug-03 13:06

3-Aug-03 13:06

Ahhh, mud throwing, eh?
You really dont get what I say dont you?

Christian Graus wrote:
I'll assume that as English is not your first language, you were incapable of understanding my last post. Get an English speaker to explain it to you.

I did understand your post, but it looks like that even you have english as your first language, you are totally incapable of understanding what I write. Dead | X|

I really dont wanna waste more time being offended by you.

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Christian Graus3-Aug-03 13:11

3-Aug-03 13:11

Anders Molin wrote:
I did understand your post, but it looks like that even you have english as your first language, you are totally incapable of understanding what I write.

Let's see, shall we ?

I suggested that if there is a dependency to MSVCRT, it's *possible* that he could be using some old C functionality that C++ does better.

You wrote:

And one thing that really sucks, is seeing the "I know better types" saying such crap all the times.

I again clarified that I didn't claim that the C library was useless, but that a lot of people don't even know the C++ stuff is there, so I suggested it was worth a look.

You wrote:

But excuse me Sir for not agree with the way you always try to get people to use what *you* think is the best.

Conclusion: you are an arrogant clown, possibly illiterate.

Anders Molin wrote:
I really dont wanna waste more time being offended by you.

Then don't make an ass of yourself. I maintain that if people ask questions, they are looking for answers, and that my answer was both correct, and not what you claimed it to be. Using really small words, it goes like this. C++ has stuff that is better than C, and a good coder knows about both so he can make the right choice. Too many don't know and so make the wrong choice, because universities don't *teach* C++, they teach C with classes.

Christian

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Anders Molin3-Aug-03 13:16

3-Aug-03 13:16

Christian Graus wrote:
Conclusion: you are an arrogant clown, possibly illiterate.

Hehehe, maybe that makes 2 of us, but you are really good at offending other people, I'll give you that.

Christian Graus wrote:
and a good coder knows about both so he can make the right choice.

Of course, but why do you bring it up every time you answer a post where people mention crt?
Thats what keeps bugging me, i know you give some great answers, but why also try to "convert" people to use C++ just because they mentioned a crt function.

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Christian Graus3-Aug-03 13:22

3-Aug-03 13:22

Anders Molin wrote:
you are really good at offending other people, I'll give you that.

LOL - it works in real life, too..... Smile | :)

Anders Molin wrote:
Of course, but why do you bring it up every time you answer a post where people mention crt?

I guess I am just accustomed to people using the CRT because they don't know there are alternatives. I probably have STL blinkers on, I'll admit that. But the majority of times I get to discuss it with people, I do find that they really don't realise it's not the only alternative.

Christian

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Anders Molin3-Aug-03 13:29

3-Aug-03 13:29

I have to say that I dont like STL much, that probably make me a bit quick too.
I have made a lot of server applications that did big amounts of string handling. I tried to convert some of the code from TCHAR* tp std::string, but the performance was too bad.

Ok, STL is good for many things, but not everything Wink | ;)

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