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So much for you arguments and "discussion".
Did you look up polio?
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Did you look up polio?
No. Why would I?
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So don't; you might learn something about vaccines and what they did for us.
Statistics show they more effective than praying.
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You are hilarious. I copied a quote from the CDC site stating a fact, that there is possible danger in vaccines, and you respond by assuming I am an anti-vaxer, Trump loving, religious person. All from saying there are risks with vaccines.
Can you now see that you have a real problem?
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ZurdoDev wrote: You are hilarious. I copied a quote from the CDC site stating a fact, that there is possible danger in vaccines
Most treatments have a danger. Laxatives can even be deadly. And you are blowing up the danger beyond proportion.
ZurdoDev wrote: and you respond by assuming I am an anti-vaxer
You are, by your own words.
ZurdoDev wrote: Trump loving
Nothing wrong with that; the world is freaked out because he didn't start a war yet. Imagine that, a US president not starting a war. Has little to do with the subject.
ZurdoDev wrote: religious person
You are religious; you place belief before fact.
ZurdoDev wrote: Can you now see that you have a real problem?
Hehe, nice wordsmithing, but no; you are hammering on the fact that there "is" a risk. The risk is minor, the benefits obvious. You could just as well be whining about the dangers of painkillers that are available in the supermarket.
You came with hearsay, not evidence. And yes, your "CDC" may say there is a danger, because there's never a guarantee; even the painkillers in the supermarket have dangers. And it seriously takes an American to blow that out of proportion. If you that paranoid, medical aid in any form is not for you because any treatment is risky.
You never heard of iron lungs either? That's due to vaccines. And you should be taxed extra for that.
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ZurdoDev wrote: I stated a fact. How is that blowing up beyond proportion?
You did, cherry picking your fact to promote your view; not reality. You focus on a small risk, ignoring all benefits.
ZurdoDev wrote: You're too emotional and irrational to have a discussion with.
Again, just an ad-hominem because you out of arguments.
ZurdoDev wrote: ZurdoDev: "It's raining outside."
Eddy: "The world isn't going to flood!! You're blowing this all out of proportion!!  "
I hate wordsmiths.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: promote your view
And what is my view?
Eddy Vluggen wrote: ignoring all benefits.
Oh, you think that's my view? Nope, it's only in your head. You are arguing with me because of what only exists in your head. My original assessment of you has now been proven.
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ZurdoDev wrote: And what is my view?
Don't know, don't care; you come in with hearsay against evidence, so I don't care about your petty views.
ZurdoDev wrote: Oh, you think that's my view?
That was a factual statement, not a view. You choose to ignore the benefits of vaccines, despite years of evidence. You choose to ignore statistics.
Did you look up polio? Of course not, because you just here to prove you're right regardless of reality; ignoring all facts, wordsmithing your way out of it whenever cornered by facts, resorting to personal attacks when you run out of arguments.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: That was a factual statement, not a view. You choose to ignore the benefits of vaccines,
Nope, never happened. And if it indeed were a fact you would be able to prove it. So, go on, prove that I ignore the benefits or else admit you are trolling.
It's impossible for you to prove it because it never happened anywhere else other than inside your head. 
Maybe you should cut back on some of the pills you are taking? You might be hallucinating.
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ZurdoDev wrote: Nope, never happened
There's a trail of quotes. I learned from the past.
ZurdoDev wrote: And if it indeed were a fact you would be able to prove it.
Quod Eddy Demonstrandum.
ZurdoDev wrote: So, go on, prove that I ignore the benefits or else admit you are trolling.
That's me with arguments, against you with hearsay? 
ZurdoDev wrote: It's impossible for you to prove it because it never happened anywhere else other than inside your head.
Cannot prove it, and no intention on doing so either. Your idea of "proof" is if it fits your idea's.
ZurdoDev wrote: Maybe you should cut back on some of the pills you are taking? You might be hallucinating.
Again, a personal attack, but no argument. Wordsmithing your way out. Zopiclon and Tramadol, and a few days without sleeping.
And still beating you. I'd still be beating you on arguments on day five without sleep.
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Are the zombies fighting in your head?
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Every time I click "quote selected text", you comedian.
I have been laughing at you this whole time but you have finally convinced me that now I think you actually do believe what you have been saying. I thought you were just trolling and so I went along and laughed but I really believe you believe what you have been saying is true.
Not to be rude, but if you really believe what you have been posting, that's insane and I suggest you get some professional help.
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ZurdoDev wrote: Not to be rude, but if you really believe what you have been posting, that's insane and I suggest you get some professional help.
I been getting heavier sleeping pills every time; they don't work. Yes, you fall asleep, but with enough pain you wake up an hour later. Slept tonight. My maximum us now six days; on day four, you start hearing stuff, on day five, you see stuff. Day six is the one I never remember.
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ZurdoDev wrote: Not to be rude, but if you really believe what you have been posting, that's insane and I suggest you get some professional help.
I did; hence my absence;
I suggest a cease-fire. We here to code, not to do politics. And if you ever near the Netherlands, you invited.
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You did not quote any scientist.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: You did not quote any scientist.
You do not read well.
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Gerry Schmitz wrote: sooooo, why the flu shot?
To lower the load on the ICU this winter.
They need all the slack they can get.
But personally I'm thinking of getting a pneumonia shot.
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If you have any history of lung issues, get it.
I'll be getting one at my physical later this month.
My Dad gets pneumonia quite often and I have exercise and cold air induced asthma.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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I've had pneumonia once, it's more common than people realize.
It's also very common to get pneumonia on top of other respiratory deceases, being the actual killer.
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1. I wonder if the flu shot is why I didn't get the flu?
2. I wonder if I would not have gotten the flu if I had gotten the shot?
I vote for #2, but I will do what I am told 
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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If I get a flu shot, the company will give me the choice of a free reward:
PJ pants
zip-up hoodie
yoga mat
grill apron
hydration kit (water bottle & tumbler)
health kit (fanny pack with gloves, mask, wipes, stress ball & cool pack)
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think about the reverse situation. suppose there is a shot for the whatever virus.
do you think the flu will step aside while you go to get your shot for the other virus?
on this 5th of October the WHO announced it's best estimate indicate that roughly 1 in 10 people in the world may have been infected by the corona virus.
that's 10% of the world population. given that they say than there are 1,1 million victims.
that makes it 0,14% mortality rate which is on ranks of seasonal flu (0,1-0,2%)
take the next statement with a grain of salt, but i can (me, for my self, for my personal speculations) easily imagine halve the 1,1 million being victims to the flu or other illness, given how easy was to declare someone victim to "the virus"...
i'd say (me, for my self), i better go out for a shot of flu and get "the virus", then go out for "the shot of the virus" and get the flu.
either way it doesn't come out good.
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