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What did Kayne West ever do to you, that you'd wish that upon him? 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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yeah that's true I just hope it won't last forever
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Stressed and retreating to flies' graveyard. (8)
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Reverse (retreating) Stressed = desserts
Flies graveyard = Scottish fruit slice.
Scottish fruit slice for desserts
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yacCarsten wrote: Flies graveyard = Scottish fruit slice.
Never heard that one before.  But just Googled it and yep, it's all over it! Every day's a school day. 
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Congratulations, you are up tomorrow!
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I've run out of space to store stuff, so I am going through stuff that I had decided to keep since the last time I had run out of space, and decided to keep stuff, etc.
Specifically, I have:
-> DSL modems:
Motorola 2210-02-1066
Motorola NGV510
These seem to be for AT&T DSL (maybe "U-Verse"), back when I had to prostrate myself upon this bloodsucking company for internet service (thank you, Sprint & pcsforpeople.net!) They seem to go for $25 or so, down to $7 (LOL) at eBay which tells me that they are basically only used by folks who have existing AT&T DSL service. AIUI, AT&T now forces folks to rent a modem, so I have a feeling these are worthless. I might keep the 2210-02-1066 around because it's small, LOL.
-> Netgear RangeMax WPN824 wireless router
-> USB wireless modems
D-Link DWA-140 wireless modem (USB)
Belkin Z528
Logitech
These are small, so I guess I'll keep them around. I think most of them are fried, LOL.
-> mouse, circa 2008 or so, trackball PS-2 port, LOL
-> Dynex Wired Mouse DX-WMSE, USB ported, seems to have IRF transducer instead of trackball
As for myself, for space & portability reasons, I've only used a notebook since 2009, although I could see myself in the future getting a desktop again. I just have to think that all mice these days are wireless.
I plan to take the ball out since a little rubber sphere never goes out of style. 
-> 40-pin ribbon cable:
I can remember the days when Gateway Computers would always send out a new ribbon cable when something wasn't working, LOL.
-> 75-ohm F-type TV-signal coaxial cable
I am a permanent "cable cutter" so I'll never have the use of having my house wired for cable, or going to a TV (I haven't had "cable TV" since Lehman Brothers used to be a corporation  ). I can only envision using a TV-type display for video games, digital over-air TV signal (although I happen to currently be located at a place that seems to be 50 miles from all the digital TV antennae  ) or otherwise driven from a computer.
-> VGA cable
If it means anything, I have a Sony SDM-HS95P monitor in storage that, who knows, I might power up in the future, LOL. I can't fathom anything else that could possibly use this.
-> Hynix 2GB 2Rx8 PC2-6400S-666-12 memory module
When my 2009-era ASUS notebook crapped out, I took these out, LOL. These are small, so I might keep this just for kicks.
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I think this is all so far, LOL.
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I take it all to the dump where they recycle it. Phones, cables, mice, monitors, microwaves, etc.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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If you walked out of the store with it, it's obsolete....
Technology's like that.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Peter_in_2780 wrote: If you walked out of the store with it,
Who does that any more?
Quote: If you clicked the "Buy now!" button, it's obsolete....
Technology's like that.
FTFY!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Nah, you actually have to get your hands on it. 
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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It doesn't matter whether it's obsolete or not, because whatever you do, the following law applies: If you keep any stuff you won't ever need it again, but if you throw it out now you'll need it in the next three months or so.
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Then you have to remember where you left it; or whether you threw it out already or just thought about it.
One of my best moments was when I collected every tool I could find and put them into one of those stacking tool chests. I was also surprised at how many tools I had.
(I had an "electronics cabinet" but it now has toilet paper and the like).
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Frankly the only thing I would hang on to is the wifi USB adapter. Wifi adapters die or become flaky, so I've found having some alternative means of connecting (beyond Ethernet) can be useful to establish where a connection failure may be originating from.
Of course you have to make sure you have drivers for it that work on whatever OS you're using these days. Otherwise, trash it.
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I'm sure it has a place somewhere, but it's still essentially a glue/scripting language.
I have no use for it, but I suspect that it could be useful in a low-code scenario -- calling routines in "packages" and controlling the flow.
Other than that, it seems to be good for teaching the basics of development -- and enforcing code formatting habits at an early age.
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So you are saying that Python is the new BASIC.
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No, it is worse. It's syntax is C infested.
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I resent that... I love the C syntax.
I might be biased because I learned Macro-11 Assembly before C, and there is a one to one mapping on most C statements.
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They come out of Math class where = means equality, go to the next class, in gentle Python = means let be equal...
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Neither are toy languages.
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I don't think Python is losing its charm as much as people are realizing that programming is not for them.
This goes back to a post I made a few days ago, where I said that the world is throwing technology at everyone, hoping many become programmers, engineers, etc. Python was supposed to be the language for the masses. Only problem is, the masses don't like programming.
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Slacker007 wrote: This goes back to a post I made a few days ago, where I said that the world is throwing technology at everyone, hoping many become programmers, engineers, etc. Python was supposed to be the language for the masses. Only problem is, the masses don't like programming.
So were Basic, SQL, and COBOL at times in the past.
Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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And you may ask yourself: "Well, how did I get here?"
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