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I've built a few simply projects with the help of tutorials. I've been doing java as a hobby for several years. I know JavaFx, Android, and I"m in the process of learning Spring. I'm familiar with Python, HTML, XML. About 7 years ago I studied and therefore know, to a lesser extent SQL C++, JS, PHP, since I mostly forgot those languages. I've been seeing a lot of job postings asking for Java with Android, Spring Framework and Node.JS or Angular. Node and Angular Javascript. I did a few weeks of lesson on those frameworks a about 4 years ago, but mostly forget. Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want? I'm still working on learning Android and Spring. Is it imperative to learn Node to find a job? As you can see in my github account I've have hundreds of projects big and small in Java, and a few in Python
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Jobs where they are asking for both Java and some combination of a web framework along with JavaScript/TypeScript tends to show one of two things.
1. The job is for a "full stack" developer. This means that the developer is meant to be as comfortable coding at the front end as they are with coding at the server.
2. The person doing the hiring, whehter they are the manager, HR team or recruiter, don't have a clue about the technology and have just thrown everything in.
If the actual job description indicates that all of the code will be at purely at the client side, or the server side, this is a pretty good indicator that option 2 is in play here.
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CoderBryGuy wrote: Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want?
The two most important questions are the ones we cannot answer. Although Pete has given a couple of good suggestions. The only way to get definitive answers is by applying for the jobs and seeing how far you get. If you know of a reputable recruiter then go and talk to them, explain what you have to offer and see if they can help.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: If you know of a reputable recruiter then go and talk to them, explain what you have to offer and see if they can help.
And that's much more difficult as one think at first glance
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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So true, my own experience is that most of them are a waste of space.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: So true, my own experience is that most of them are a waste of space.
And time... if you start talking with them 
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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You can always check the job descriptions/requirements to see whether the company provides training on the job. It doesn't hurt to get some base experience with those technologies (Angular, React, Vue) so you're not completely clueless when you go into the role, but most companies will provision for people needing to learn technologies. If it's a senior role, there might be more of an expectation to have that experience already.
This is a big problem some graduates face when entering the developer market, the list of requirements can seem overwhelming and off-putting. Just remember that just because a job has listed 20 different requirements doesn't necessarily mean they expect you to have experience in all of them, you can always ask about whether they provide training and explain that you'll need time to acquaint yourself with the technologies.
We hired a Java developer on the back of his strong knowledge of Java, but he had little experience with Spring, Angular, Oracle etc. and we simply allowed him to learn on the job. And after getting hands-on with our software he took the time at home to build his own projects and learn more about the technologies we're using.
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If the job requires JavaScript, then it is very important.
If the job doesn't require JavaScript, then it is not important.
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Now your question about 'why they want that' with a variable list of frameworks? Very often it comes down to supporting some legacy code - maybe freshly written by someone who's moved on; maybe they've been in use for years and someone's retired/fired/moved on.
It should be no surprise that their needs are (very often) based not on what they want but what they already have. Perhaps, it also includes someone's wish list or HR's/management's uncontrollable desire to use the latest buzz-words.
Best Java jobs? Sometime, maybe they're available at Starbucks.
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I'd rather have someone on my team that: 1) knows how to solve problems, and then 2) knows a few languages to aid in solving those problems. If a person knows a few languages well, or knows a lot of them just below the surface, but they have no reasoning/problem-solving skills, software development might be the wrong path for them.
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other people in the industry have old me to focus on a few frameworks in java. Don't try to learn a lot of languages and frameworks. I was putting a lot of energy into learning Python and Pygame, and also LibGDX, in addition to Android. AFter they told me that I've just been focued on Android and Spring Framework, though I still do a little Python and Pygame on the side when I have time.
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Depends on the employer. That's why finding a job is a numbers game: you have to hit the right employer. The days of planning who you want to work for are long gone.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
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To quote Obelix, "These Lutetians are crazy"*
*Asterix and the Normans
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Wow! Just... Wow!
What a crazy world we have today. How to cope?
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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So essentially, a lockdown is the best way to spread a virus from a high risk area to a lower risk area - well done French government psychology department 
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Parisians do have a reputation for arrogance and self-centeredness ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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People are/were leaving the city. it is kind of normal the traffic was bad.
My sister lives in Paris, it took her 4 1/2 hours to cross the city from the XVI arrondissement to the east of the Vincennes Castle
I'd rather be phishing!
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I'm glad I don't live there too; in fact, I'm extremely glad I was born/brought up anywhere in France. Life would be so damn difficult - I don't speak a word of French.
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Why would you even want to own a vehicle in Paris anyway?
I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27.
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I have to ask the same question we should all be asking about lockdowns.
What is the current healthcare system (hospital) load?
By this I mean I want to know if local medical facilities have spare inpatient and possibly more important, spare ICU capacity, and how quickly these can be added if needed. Back in July Houston was seeing an uptick in infections as they started testing more and more people, but they weren't seeing an equivalent increase in hospitalizations. When the US media went after Houston (and Texas) for not instituting a lockdown the head of Houston's Dept of Health (whatever it's actually called) stood up in front of the media and flat out told them they could have 1,000 additional inpatient beds and 100 ICU beds available in under 72 hours. In addition to that they could have several thousand available in a week. We haven't heard peep from the media about Houston since then.
Finally here's something to think about: The term lockdown is most commonly associated with prisons. Why the F are we treating our populations as prisoners?
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obermd wrote: Why the F are we treating our populations as prisoners?
For the same reason we don't let our populations drink and drive: because they are a danger to everybody else, not themselves ...
But this starts to get too close to "soapbox territory" so I'll stop before we both get banned ...
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Also the suggested manner of treating patients has changed since the start of the pandemic.
At first it seemed like the best thing was putting patients onto ventilation, which turned out to be killing many patients.
Apparently it's fairly well known that ventilation is a very risky and delicate procedure due to the possibility of iatrogenic lung infections while the patient is ventilated.
I think the current recommendation is an oxygen mask and avoiding ventilation as much as possible which I think probably means that most patients will not need to go into ICU hence more ICU places being available.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
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obermd wrote: When the US media went after Houston (and Texas) for not instituting a lockdown the head of Houston's Dept of Health (whatever it's actually called)
You many not have noticed, but looking at the current state of COVID in those places that didn't think precautions were import: THE REST IS HISTORY.
and, and for this:obermd wrote: Finally here's something to think about: The term lockdown is most commonly associated with prisons. Why the F are we treating our populations as prisoners?
I'll be kind and call that a moronic statement and conclusion/interpretation.
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