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I've used several of the Esp knockoff boards from various vendors and not had any problems, other than of my own doing.
Don't remember the site but there's a guy that has a free book with everything you'd ever care to know about the ESP boards. Not at my computer and terrible memory.
I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27.
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I've got a good board coming in the mail. Half the price and known to work with the touchscreen i'm wiring up to it.
yeah, the knockoffs are sometimes better.
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Depends on the board, some knockoffs are impossible to work with.
I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27.
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Yeah, I don't mean all of them. SongHe makes a good Arduino Mega 2560+WiFi R3 knockoff.
Elegoo makes a decent plain jane mega
And I hear HiLetgo's ESP WROOM-32 is solid.
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Despite the idiocy of the support person, according to that article the ESP32 board is innocent. The screen was designed to be incompatible with anything but an Arduino.  
Quote: After digging into the RA8875 software, I found that on initialization of the SPI interface, it begins by reading a register and checking the return value. If that value doesn’t match what an Arduino returns, it simply quits. I did open an issue with the RA8875 library and hopefully Adafruit will address the problem. I also tested a Teensy 3.1 with the RA8875 and it worked fine.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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How come it works with a knockoff ESP32 board I bought though? I'm not sure it's arduino based. Looks more like a feather board to me. <--- probably my board is arduino based or something...
Good on you for finding that though. I didn't see it. Looking at it more it looks like you're right.
I'd fire that tech support person or at least put them in the mail room. When I google it that's what comes up.
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modified 9-Nov-20 9:01am.
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A friend who was an electronics geek--this was in the early '70s--told me that ESD was such an issue for certain devices that some folks worked in the nude. I don't know much about such things, so he might just have been putting me on. 
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These certain devices are all of the CMOS flavor. In the 70s there just appearing and also seen as 'weird', Now they are everywhere and CMOS has been improved over the years, including making the chips less vulnerable to ESD.
And yes, it's hard to ground all of your clothing, so the safest way to protect your new sinfully expensive CMOS parts would be to wear minimal clothing while you handle them.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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basically.
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Quote: When asked about it in their support forums their support team responded with "the ESP32 chip is unstable and weird"
Why don't you ask also Expressif itself?
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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Because the problem isn't the ESP32. They work fine. The problem is adafruit. Adafruit needs to close their doors and take up building solar powered calculators. It's all their qualified for.
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Didn't they (Adafruit folks) expose directly the ESP32 SPI pins on the board?
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
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Yes, they exposed the ESP32 SPI pins on their unstable board. Why do you ask?
The worst part is they're still selling the trash. And when you go to the forums to ask them for help they blame it on the ESP32 being "unstable and weird" - they actually said that! tossers.
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If they expose directly the ESP32 SPI pins, how could you blame them?
I mean, assuming the chip is correctly powered, if the SPI does not behave as it should then it cannot be a problem of the board.
Also, in my experience, interfacing SPI displays is tricky.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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CPallini wrote: I mean, assuming the chip is correctly powered,
My first thought is it wasn't powered correctly, and my first suspect is cheap capacitors or otherwise cheap voltage regulation. That's just a guess though, it could be anything. These aren't exactly simple devices despite the cost.
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I have used the standard ESP32 board for a complicated project using I2C, SPI, Wifi and ULP code. Worked like a charm, never noticed anything weird or unstable about it. Probably a case of wanting to shift the blame to someone else.
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Get back to me once you get an RA8875 to work with it. I'll save you some time. You can't do it. I can't do it. The guys at Nuts and Volts couldn't do it.
Because it's broken.
SPI may have worked for little non-sensitive devices. It will not work with the RA8875 40 pin TFT touch.
Adafruit is overpriced trash.
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No worries, I will follow your advice and never buy an Adafruit version. 
As to the original ESP32's version: SPI really did work well on that. I used it quite a lot to shift a lot of data to and from the built in Serial flash, thousands and thousands of recorded analogue data samples which were neatly sent to a remote server using the WiFi component. Really nice performance for a 7...8 Euro unit.
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I love the chip. It's solid, regardless of what Adafruit says. The platform is gold. 
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I don't think I would condemn them that hard. I have never purchased any microcontrollers from them but have bought some devices. Their programming libraries are good for starting out. I am using a couple of temperature modules and a Temp/Humidity/Pressure module for an exercise to use Blazor, running on a Pi, as a dashboard. Started at Adafruit. No worries. Now, the temp module is $4.95 from them and $0.77 from Alibaba (+ $1.75, 30-50 days shipping). I would guess that all of that stuff is sourced from China. I have never tried to get support from Ada, but I guess you could view your experience 2 ways. One way is they were honest with you, and maybe ask for your money back. The IoT world is full of hype, cheating, and lying as well as good stuff. I like the good stuff (always look at the datasheets).
Like they say: Good, Cheap, Fast: pick any 2.
Pi's rock and start at about $8.
The I2C bus was never really intended for the way we use it, FWICS.
Cheers
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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You're fairer than I would be but I'm done ranting now.
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What I saw I realize was prophesied most of a century ago[^].
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| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
modified 8-Nov-20 10:54am.
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this is politically motivated, and trolling, and illustrates the double standard.
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This is merely a parade of joy.
These selections, on the other hand, and political and I warn away those who don't want to enter this soon-to-be-locked down thread.
Also relevant from the very self same movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopdD9Cu-So[^]
Wizard Of Oz[^]
I guess a good portion of the USA will demand the movie be banned. Especially in rural states. Well - the book burnings have, fortunately, been averted.
And the rest of us ? We can have a good laugh at it and get on with the business of living.
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| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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You are out of line, Balboos. Your post is political and you know it.
If I posted similar posts, Sean would ban me for good. You do it, nothing happens.
Double standard.
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