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Indeed - modern SBC's are serious bits of kit. I hosted a net core api which in turn made calls to a postgres database on one of these boards and used it as a demo for one of my customers - he couldn't believe it was all on this little box.
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Personally, I like them even smaller. IoT devices on extremely low power CPUs. I've got some code right now that drops the ESP32 chip to like 20uA in between making calls to google.com (just to test) - it wakes up on a timer or if a wire i have hanging off of one of the touch capacitor pins is held.
I did see a box with a LEMP stack that's barely bigger than the ethernet jack on it. The whole thing was about the size of one of those reusable plastic "ice cubes" you freeze.
That was impressive.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Have you got a link to the micro LAMP stack box ?
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I don't. It was a couple of weeks ago I stumbled on it, and it was interesting but not enough to bookmark. I just googled and I can't seem to find it. I think it's Raspberry Pi based, but I'm not sure.
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Ok thanks
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... answers and comments seem to be disappearing? Or just invisible when you go back to review them.
... they are back. 
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I've switched to Edge from Firefox because the latter is simply not loading some pages, and I also experienced the disappearing post earlier today.
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I was accidentally thinking about the word "what", as used in English.
It's used so abstractly - sort of a verbal wild-card, such as in "What is that?".
Somehow, a little differently, like in "What time is it?" implying "can you tell me the time?"
And, of course, we can thrown in usages related to "What is the matter with you?" - sort of switch from a noun to a verb, as in state-of-being.
There's a common thread, but more to the point I was considering: a small child just learning to speak - how do they master that very vague concept - a verbal place-holder (not just parrot it) ?
Anyway, just a passing thought.
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I don't know what.
That is what?
Do you know what?
What, what, what! (from the Goon Show)
And of course: 
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: I don't know what.
Oh - that reminds me - I forgot all about "Who's on first. What's on second."
A little clumsy as a fielder, but a nice guy - you should get to know him
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Quote: Do you know what?
Don't forget:
Don'tcha know, what? What, What? (Lord Peter Wimsey comes to mind).
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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What, that
Where, there
When, then
-at = thing
-ere = place
-en = time
wh- asks a question
th- answers a question
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It's said that Chinese characters are so hard to translate because the same character can take on different meanings and voicing.
English is no slouch either when you go beyond the first dictionary definition.
Like Bearing: ball bearing; bearing fruit; heading; supporting; ... No idea what you're talking about unless there is a meeting of the minds (reader and writer).
Eh?
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
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Oh No ! According to urban (and rural) legend, saying that word eight times in a row will evoke a curse whereby you may find yourself up to your ankles in buffalo poop . . . whilst standing on your head.
Let us know when it's time to "hose you down" and "towel you off".
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Developers...developers...developers!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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That's an altogether different problem: "wind" - you cannot understand it without context. I used to have a list of a hundred or more of those (polish, lead, etc.)
When learning a very small tad of Chinese from friends, it took me a while to grasp all of the very unique 'h' sounds. Not so bad once I realized I had to listen harder.
The real problem with Chinese characters is so much the characters, themselves, but that two characters (word) put together can have a very different meaning than the individual words. Interestingly, even when the many dialects were common across China, two people, anywhere, could write to one another - but would not be able to speak to one another. Languages that come to mind, in the west, that are vaguely similar would be Spanish vs. Portuguese; Yiddish vs. German - although in both of these cases the languages do actually differ: I'm only pretending it's an accent thing.
And remember, after you read this it is read.
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Hi all, as it seems likely I will be working from home for the foreseeable future, I need a decent dev box - I currently use my Dell Latitude E6430 laptop with an external monitor and keyboard - this works ok but the laptop is getting on a bit and I'm sure it's getting slower by the day. Reccommendations guys ? budget ~ £2000 TIA
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Spend most on monitors: the more the better - and you will be looking at them for most of the day, so the better the quality the less strain on your eyes.
Other than that, how about an original IBM PC? You can still buy them second hand, and they are within budget ... and "640K ought to be enough for anybody."
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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You strange boy 
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Not necessarily strange at all.
Whilst working from home, will the real work be done on your local machine or on a remote box/server/whatever?
I work from home (for a while) and have a refurbished Dell Optiplex that's old enough that I had to use DDR2 to increase the RAM. Originally, I just got it for a cheap media box for the TV (hence RAM increase) but for work, it's all throttled by the internet and a hop from a VM to my "at work Xeon".
A cheap box with HDMI output to a nice big screen and you're in fine shape.
If you're working on your local machine - I usually find it prudent to buy into the sweet spot in the market - the point where the price just breaks somewhat precipitously. Unless you're doing some heavy duty video, you really don't need a gamers' speed.
Now I do have some better systems, include a Dell M6500 laptop (17" screen and excellent keyboard).
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I was referring to OG's quoye how about an original IBM PC ?  - my work will largely be done on my local machine as the Citrix connection to the office is a bit flakey - I would like one of the mega powerful laptops but I think the fan noise et al would be a problem at home - I think I'll probably stick with Dell - would you reccommend the M6500 ?
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M6500 - I bought this used ($400) and several years ago. It's more or less the low end of the family. Now they make these things with i5 and i7 chips. Possibly renamed the model family?
Here's what I like: 17" screen, great keyboard, 2 HDD's (raid 1 if you wish). I've upped one to an SSD. Also, when I was buying it, I only wanted Win7 - not Win10. That may not be your preference or even an option.
Downside: it's quite heavy. The power supply it came with is about 1/2 the size of a real brick. Possibly because it's a refurb, but the battery doesn't last that long (an hour or two). It does get hot.
Now, putting the above, together: I expected (like most users when it comes to real life) that when I'm doing any "real work" I'd be plugged in, anyway - so I didn't worry about battery life. It still runs long enough for a but of on-the-go browsing - not a problem, so far.
This is/was referred to as a "Portable Work Station" and it is pretty much just that - a portable desktop that feels like one. I really like it.
Also, I did notice OG's reference to an original IBM PC. That's why I noted that, if not working on your local machine, you don't need much to do very well. When it's an option.
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