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dandy7213-Mar-22 5:57
dandy7213-Mar-22 5:57 
I just have to shake my head at this one.

Outlook lets you define rules, but they only run against items that make it to your inbox. It doesn't run those rules against folders such as "Junk email".

In the web client - under Mail / Junk email / Filters, I have checked the checkbox labeled "Only trust email from addresses in my Safe senders and domains list and Safe mailing lists". That means unless something is already in my explicitly defined list, it'll end up in the junk mail folder. If I'm going to build such a list of safe senders, that means I have to check the junk mail folder on a regular basis and look for anything to add to it. Not very practical, although I do have a few items I've added so they're guaranteed to never end up in the junk folder.

It's not unusual for me to get dozens of spam items a day - for the most part, they seem to consistently originate from the same people, with the same sender names, but the email addresses are totally random. So even though Outlook lets you define rules based on addresses, I can't realistically do that. So it would make sense to define rules against sender names...but Outlook doesn't let you do that, for some reason.

If I uncheck the option to only allow items from my safe list to be sent to my inbox, that means everything ends up there. And while that means rules could be run against those...Windows pops up notifications for anything that makes it to the inbox (as opposed to keeping quiet for things that end up in the junk mail folder). So suddenly, unless I have a crap-ton of rules, I have a lot more notifications popping up all day long...

Bottom line - and my whole point - is that if only MS let you run rules against the junk mail folder, and not just the inbox, going through the junk mail folder wouldn't be such a tedious job, and the popups could still be kept to a minimum.

As an aside, I tried to use PowerShell to connect to my mailbox using MS's Graph API to automate things based on my own filters...and while it works great for a corporate account, none of it works for a personal Hotmail account (aka a "Microsoft account"). But that's a rant for another day.

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I can work around the sender email vs sender name issue by specifying the sender name values if they appear under message headers. That works, but again, because everything is now going to my inbox...I still have a lot more notifications than ever, until that list gets built up.
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