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ewwww
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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pcparkpicker is a fun tool to pick parts and is more useful for an enthusiast hobbyist.
(speaking of which I have an urge to spend money now)
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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PaltryProgrammer wrote: no graphics card as I do not game only read/post here and edit under Visual Studio and stream TV shows
If you stream TV shows, keep in mind that some codecs (I'm thinking specifically of HEVC/H.265) will benefit from a decent graphics card - don't assume the onboard video will be sufficient.
And don't assume this codec is only used to encode 4K videos. I've seen 720p videos encoded with it, and some systems simply cannot deal with it.
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PaltryProgrammer wrote: 1TB SSD screaming fast
SSD's are no longer screaming fast. The fast thing now is NVMe. These devices use the PCI bus for interface with the hard drive.
If you get the right motherboard, they even let you set up a striped RAID with 2 NVMe devices. Now that's screaming fast.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Heh,
One of my Hyper-V servers has a conventional spindle drive as the boot drive. It's not terribly slow, probably takes around 10+ seconds to boot. But what's interesting is that my virtual machines are on the striped NVMe D drive. The VM's boot faster than the host operating system.
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Cool!
I'm using a striped pair of NVMe drives in my Threadripper machine. Let me tell you, the POST takes longer than the Windows bootup.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
modified 28-Apr-22 14:26pm.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: in my Threadripper machine
Which one?
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It's the 2990WX with 32 cores. It was the top of the line Threadripper in its day.
With the hyperthreading, the Task Manager has to display CPU usage for 64 cores! It's really cool.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Hmmm,
Why do you need 32 cores? I can't think of any reason for a developer to use 32/64 cores. Do you do video editing or something?
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C'mon. I'm a PC enthusiast. I built it for the sake of building it and playing around with it.
I gave it 128 GB of RAM too along with a high end video card. It's my masterpiece!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Quote: It's my masterpiece!
Impressive! But can it mine crypto? 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Probably not very well. The graphics card is not that high-end.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Ok,
I can identify with that. 
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PP,
I'd write you privately. You say you no nothing about hardware but have not found a preassembled unit to your liking. then you list a lot of screaming fast stuff... As near as I can tell, you have trivial requirements for what's available in the market place. You don't game so, pick something from NewEgg. you will spend a bit more than Dell, but you can do that way if you want. I could go on, but then I'd have to tell you to buy a chassis, a power supply, etc. and although I am confident you could do that, you don't seem to have the hoossss spa 
Go get the Dell and buy a 3 year next day warranty.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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it depends on your budget, Dell XPS-15 or XPS 17 series. you will find the one you like..
diligent hands rule....
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Thanks for the Dell XPS tip. I don't know how I missed it when I first reviewed the Dell offerings. I configured one link below as close to preferred re/ parts and price as can be reasonably hoped for. I don't know which series it is as nothing shows on the page re/ same. Thanks again
XPS Desktop with up to 12th Gen Intel Processor | Dell USA[^]
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Others have mentioned it here, but I'd really recommend getting a reliable builder to do it for you. I live in South Africa, and had my last rig built for me by Wootware - they were great, providing good prices, a nominal build-and-test fee, shipping safely and helping me to arrive at a build I liked over a few back-and-forth emails. I ended up with an i9 (11th gen - 12th wasn't out yet) and 64gb RAM, wireless, nvme, pretty case, strong psu. Later got a GPU through them too.
Anyway, the point I'm trying to make here is to scout out a good company to do the build. It's quite likely that you should steer away from larger corps like Dell - check out the GamersNexus youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/c/GamersNexus for stories of how some of these manufacturers overcharge and underdeliver. Rather find a local shop where you can get a guarantee of the build and where you can talk to the builder a bit - it's all good and well to get a nice shiny 12th-gen i7 (as you're alluding to), but if you pair that with a rubbish mainboard and slow RAM, and slow disks, there's not a lot of point. It's a Ferrari engine in a go-cart!
Please don't rush this - it's very easy to get ripped off in this arena these days ):
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If you say that getting the money
is the most important thing
You will spend your life
completely wasting your time
You will be doing things
you don't like doing
In order to go on living
That is, to go on doing things
you don't like doing
Which is stupid.
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Get something close that can be upgraded to your needs.
You could get a laptop btw and just attach your preferred keyboard and mouse. Most laptop users do, and many add a monitor by hdmi (everyone in my "office" has at least one extra monitor).
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Someone else asked the same question about a year ago. I'll post a link to my response at that time.
The computer I ended up building is running fine and strong still so good luck.
The Lounge
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events.
- Manly P. Hall
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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I have purchased 3 computers from this company
My preferred base box is a Dell Precision Workstation
You can configure the additional components as you desire
As others have noted this is a great way to select your plug items and play
Refurbished IT Hardward Specialist | TekBoost[^]
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If you go to parts places, make sure that you get a motherboard that has been burned in with attached memory. It is difficult to diagnose poorly designed motherboards or defective CPU chips without spending a boat load of money on spares. I once got a kit from Egghead that I abandoned after several CPU replacements and hours with tech support, only to determine the motherboard circuit design was incorrect for the CPU I wanted. But they had a replace, not a refund policy, and since the design was the problem, I could not get my money back. Other times, the motherboard was very sensitive to heat, and after trying to burn it in ourselves, got a new one. A big waste of time and money, at least half of the shipping.
I am getting a custom Dell soon, supposedly on order. The Dell experience is pretty good for such things. I don't recommend rack servers from them, however. They think they can write their own custom drivers and Microsoft will just include them. Wrong. Maintaining that set of servers was difficult.
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I've built every rig I've owned for the last 20 years, plus rigs for the wife, family and friends. To me it seems easy and I usually start with PCPartsPicker for ideas and to check compatibility. But for a 1st-timer, there are a lot of potential trip-ups.
I don't buy from Dell, HP, etc. because you never know what you're really getting (even they don't know, it's whatever they have in the bin the day they put your system together). And you're stuck with single-source support from the manufacturer for stuff they simply don't care about more than a year after selling you the device (driver and BIOS updates mostly). You can put together a high-end machine yourself for about 1/2 the price that they'll charge for a custom high-end machine.
If you want to do it yourself, I'd say go for it. You'll learn a lot. If something doesn't match, send it back and get something else. I expect you'll get there eventually but it might take some iterations.
If you're not confident you can do it, you can look for a local computer shop that could put a rig together for you. It will cost you a little extra but it's worth the piece-of-mind and support.
In truth, there are a lot of things you have to consider and make sure to match up when putting a rig together.
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I do practically all my own repairs and built a machine years ago, which ran quite nicely for quite a long time.
As a result, I agree with the other posters here that if you do not have any hardware experience than simply building your own machine could turn into a money-pit for you.
But all is not lost.
If you want to pursue this endeavor, I would recommend that you go over to Tom's Hardware (Tom's Hardware: For The Hardcore PC Enthusiast) and begin reviewing the information available for the type of machine you want to build.
There are also quite a few books available for pc builder enthusiasts. Here is a link for the books at Amazon that are on this subject... https://www.amazon.com/s?k=build+your+own+pc&i=stripbooks&crid=31L5GBS5AG1B5&sprefix=build+your+own+pc%2Cstripbooks%2C272&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
By the way, building a game machine will give you the best performance for your every day efforts whether they are with spreadsheets or full blown development.
Hope this information helps...
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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Does anyone use this for testing? Comments? Observations?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Our QA team uses it and they like it. Unfortunately, I don't have any personal experience with it. They use it to test our MVC sites.
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