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If you steal a lamp, do you get a light sentence?
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I know I could use VMWare Workstation Player, but as I write software for a living and expect to get paid, I try to buy stuff if its not ridiculously priced (looking at you SciTools). Anyway, years ago I purchased VMWare Workstation 14.0 and upgraded to 15.0 when it came out. I'm in the process of rebuilding toward a new laptop, and *everything* is getting segmented into virtual machines.
My question - VMWare Workstation 16.0 is out. Would you upgrade to just run the latest?
thx
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I've been using VMware for 20+ years. My "strategy" has been to upgrade every other version as changes aren't usually that significant. Currently I'm on version 15 and I was looking to skip 16. The fact that VMware got sold to Broadcom and they are looking to switch to a subscription model gets me worried. I might get 16 just to be safe.
My 0.02$
Mircea
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Oh f***! I did not realize VMWare had been bought and heading toward subscription. That will instantly end my relationship with them.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I only upgrade when I need it for some feature that is only in the new version. Mostly, they seem to take away stuff in the Linux versions.
Comment about subscription model: I have not heard that, but all software seems headed for that business model if they can get away with it.
IMHO: the only thing keeping the update model going is constant changes to the Windows OS 
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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Every subscription model I have experienced has radically increased my costs. It's called renting vs. owning. I get why companies want to do it, but it prices me away.
Let's take Office for example... why do I need to subscribe to EVERYTHING when I only use 1% of what you are offering? That's a rhetorical question
SciTools puts out a great product for code analysis. They caught my eye, since they supported analyzing FORTRAN. Then they went subscription. The license I purchased I guess changed from perpetual to annual. My $400 one time expense went to over $1k annually. For a tool I use sporadically, no dice.
I guess I need to start learning Oracle Box.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I use the Windows version of Workstation Player to keep some archaeological O/Ses available (I use them once in a blue moon, but when I need them I really need them). The latest version supports Windows 11 VMs, but if you don't need that - I see no reason to upgrade.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Wouldn't Virtual box work for you?
I mean, I have been using VMWare for years and it's a very nice software, but lately I have tried Virtual box and it seems it is more than fine for me... and free (by now).
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What works, works. To be honest, buried in life and real work. I tried VB, I'll be back to try again.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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"Any VMWare Workstation users here?" going by my own experience, no. Have tried on at least 4 different occasions to get Workstation Player to do anything remotely useful. I can get a VM running, but it won't reliably talk to anything else - the internet, the host machine, the printer ... It's woefully slow and I can't get a sensible native resolution screen display out of it. On one iteration I did manage to get it running the drivers for my scanner (which won't run under Win10) and actually get it to scan a document. But that time around there was no way to get the resulting file off the VM and onto the host...
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Interesting - completely polar opposite of my experience. I need predictability, VMWare brings that. I started with the MS Windows Xp VM they had to provide lest headquarters burned down. Moved on to VMWare.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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A recent update means that when I click Start and start typing, the entire start menu is immediately converted to a Bing homepage style thing full of stuff I literally have no interest in. American sports, American politics, Entertainment news.
I'm trying to find the Visual Studio Installer. I'm working. I'm really, really not interested in what Bing thinks I care about because it's never close, nor will I ever give Bing enough info to make it close. It's none of its business.
I don't understand this mentality. Ram-it-down-your-throat advertising is dead. I should know - I have a media company. And yet Microsoft seems to be going down a path designed to make the user experience worse for negligible gain.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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One of the things I did soon after getting my laptop was to uninstall Microsoft News. Its feed was complete tripe. Doing this might help.
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I still have this installed, tho I never use it and if I open the start menu to search for "visual studio", I get zero web results. There's a little "search the web" button, but that's it.
This article suggests two mitigations, neither of which I've used: How to Disable Web Search Results from Start Menu in Windows 11 - Guiding Tech
I also don't use Edge as my default browser - so I'm not sure what that would surface into there.
Honestly though, I hardly ever use the start menu - I'd rather use a launcher like Flow Launcher.
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If you say that getting the money
is the most important thing
You will spend your life
completely wasting your time
You will be doing things
you don't like doing
In order to go on living
That is, to go on doing things
you don't like doing
Which is stupid.
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"American sports, American politics, Entertainment news."
Aaaa, what's your problem?
I'm still in Windows 11 culture shock myself. I just don't have the time at the moment to adjust things. But I will remove that news thingie the next poster mentioned.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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open shell seems to have fixed that for me.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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That has to be one of the very first things I install on a new Windows...
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Ditto. I used Classic-Shell until the developer stopped support, and was very pleased to see it go open source.
https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/
The page doesn't mention Win11 as supported.
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Yep, that's been my cure for years. I also use Everything search to search for stuff on my computer.
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another reason for running some version of linux.
I barely ever have to deal with this unless I am on some VM or someone elses machine
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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One word: Powertoys -- they have Alt-Space for this (a few years ago I was using Launchy, it has the same functionality).
Yeah, Microsoft is decades behind what people/developers really want. I should know -- if you look at github for a few important projects (WinUI, UWP, etc.) you'll see a lot of people asking for features, and MS either downright saying "we won't do that", or simply postponing it to infinity and beyond.
Not to mention that you can't turn off Real-time protection (not for good anyway), and I haven't found a way to turn off that stupid Antimalware Service Executable. And if you're asking why -- for better compile times, of course.
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I can’t feel sorry for software savvy people bitchin about windows 10/11 adware. Any self respecting pro should really be running Server 2016 or 2019 (with periodic self activation) and not pay MS a cent for bloated junk like 10 or 11. These idiots (MS) even disabled their app store and edge browser on their own server os’s. Otherwise 2016 and 2019 are the best products they’ve ever produced and are amazing for dev. These puppies can be trimmed down to less than 950 overhead threads. w10 can’t come close.
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Not sure how you can run Server 2016/2019 on a laptop. I know too much about the idiots at MS -- but for now, I'm stuck on Windows 10 (the reason I'm not upgrading to Win11 is that it's even worse when it comes to updates)
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