|
I think it is at the "dot one" point. Works fine here. I have installed it both ways. Like most Windows releases, some stuff improved, some stuff changed for the sake of change, some stuff annoying. All intuitive once you know how to do it. Big issue is hardware support, mostly the TPM chip. VMware is working on a new version that fully supports a virtual TPM 2.0 chip, current version requires encrypting the VM. You could probably test with that, seems to me they have a 30 day trial, or just use the community edition (previously called player). To protect my Windows systems from me, I run them in VM's.
I wouldn't be in any hurry but if you are hesitating because of "stable", I think those worries are over.
I am currently running VS in 180 day trial version of Server 2022 (virtual machine).
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
|
|
|
|
|
If I'm a "developer", I tend to keep a couple of machines around with previous OS versions for testing client software. My move to Windows 11 will probably involve a new machine if it meant eliminating an OS from the mix otherwise.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
|
|
|
|
|
Virtual machines, yes?
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
|
|
|
|
|
I've tried testing client software on VM's in the past (Windows 7); most of my apps were / are "process control" with different devices and services ... and it all just sucked / lagged with all the "redirection".
Once bitten.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
|
|
|
|
|
Ah, interesting. Most of my VMs attempt to isolate customers: myself (home machine containing all things personal), customer 1 dev env, etc. I do use many usb to whatever devices as well as virtual ethernet ports (just all of the default stuff that comes with VMware). But most of my work is in IDEs and debuggers, etc, nothing directly in the VM.
One thing Windows 10 introduced was power control for USB devices. *that* was fun to debug.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
|
|
|
|
|
If you've customized your start menu, don't switch. For everyone else I don't see any issues. I switched last winter when my old laptop just up and died about a month out of it's service contract.
I also agree with the rule of thumb - do a clean install.
|
|
|
|
|
I guess the real question is why?
My new laptop (that I've not had the chance to transfer to yet) magically went from Windows 10 Pro to Windows 11 Pro. It feels like Windows 10, but as another poster said, if you've customized your start menu - don't do it. If you do a clean install, that's all gone anyway, so moot point. I despise the new taskbar, but I've not gotten around to playing with it.
I'm in the process of moving to all VMs with minimal code on the actual iron, most of those VMs will be Windows 10, so technically I could install Linux as the base OS - which is a serious thought.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
|
|
|
|
|
I am now retired, but through my career I learnt a few coding languages: Starting with Assembler and Basic in the 1980s, then C, C++ and ultimately C#. But about a year or so ago I tackled Java (Not Javascript). I enjoyed Java, but I couldn't stop there, I just had to learn Kotlin as well.
It is now about 4 months that I have been wrestling with Kotlin. I am well on my way to complete my first significant project in Kotlin. It is probably the most difficult of all the languages I tackled. Its statements are very concise, to the point where I would call it "terse". I use the Android Studio IDE.
It gives me significant satisfaction to know that I am now just about able to do most Android projects in Kotlin. Keep in mind that I am working alone - no colleagues to tap for advice - my only friend is the Internet.
Approaching 80 and still able to feel satisfied over software conquests must mean something. I am just not sure what! ![Java | [Coffee]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif)
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
|
|
|
|
|
Cp-Coder wrote: Starting with Assembler and Basic in the 1980s, then C, C++ and ultimately C#.
We had similar tracks, but add Fortran and Pascal (Borland Turbo Pascal for $99, woohoo!) before I forayed into C, C++, then C#. Dabbled in Java because of a gig, hated it, lol. Same with Ruby. Worked a lot with Python for a while, now I do C# and TypeScript exclusively (and SQL, if you can call that a language!)
Cp-Coder wrote: Approaching 80 and still able to feel satisfied over software conquests
I'm turning 60 this month and I hope to be doing what you're doing in 20 years! Keep on coding! 
|
|
|
|
|
I am a similar age and enjoy learning new languages. Since retiring I learned C#, PHP, Python, SQL, Android and Arduino. I tried Kotlin a few months ago but gave up when I realised it was easier to stick with Java. And I really cannot see that converting Kotlin to Java makes much sense.
|
|
|
|
|
I read somewhere that some entity (was it Google?) is now pushing to have Kotlin replace Java, at least for Android programming. Could it be that Java's days are numbered? I wonder. 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
|
|
|
|
|
Cp-Coder wrote: Could it be that Java's days are numbered? I wonder.
I don't think so... many other big companies will stick with java for the comodity of "it works as usually" and no needed learn curve for the workers.
If Google pushes that for Android, I suppose that there will be a big decrease in the App Store for a certain time. If that is good or not... that's another story that might be told in another ocasion.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
|
|
|
|
|
Cp-Coder wrote: Could it be that Java's days are numbered?
Maybe, but only in the sense that Cobol's and VB6's are. 
|
|
|
|
|
I have a several very large former customers who have extensive Java installations and I don't see them changing any time soon. For them, it's a mostly a matter of portability because they have large Management Control Systems that support what was six different OSs. They could probably trim that number but they don't seem to want to. With today's hardware it makes little sense to me but what ever.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
|
|
|
|
|
Work together, play with music in the cottage. (9)
|
|
|
|
|
Cooperate ?
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
|
|
|
|
|
You got it.
Work together, play with music in the cottage. (9)
Work together = definition
play with music = opera
in the = insertion indication
cottage. = cote cooperate
Cote[^]
|
|
|
|
|
I was trying HUT, CABIN, CHALET, LODGE, ... COTE never even crossed my mind.
Well done!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
|
|
|
|
|
I started with the music part and it just leapt out
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
|
|
|
|
|
🤣🤣🤣
It does, it absolutely does.
Paul Sanders.
If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal.
Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.
|
|
|
|
|
|
🤣🤣🤣
Paul Sanders.
If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal.
Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.
|
|
|
|
|
Mauve VS? Crayon.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
|
|
|
|
|
Sounds like you have kids 🤣
Paul Sanders.
If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal.
Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.
|
|
|
|
|
grand kids
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
