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JohaViss61 wrote: Unfortunately, we didn't learn any lessons from it.
Cracked me up! So true.
I also forgot to list the fact that Stoll created a Honey-pot also.
Very cool, he created all those fake docs to lure the hacker in. 
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I remember reading it, but not much of the details. I do remember however thinking how naive "they were back then", and yet how little we've progressed since.
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They were so naive back then. So true.
Nothing's changed. 
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One of my favorite books. I read it for the first time back in 1994 I think, in college. I got my copy of the book from a friend and since lost it. I re-purchased it sometime in the 20-teens and after re-reading it, it still proudly sits on my shelf to this day. I recommend it to everyone going into cybersec. The book is amazing though. It covers account control issues, brute force, exploits introduced by uncontrolled software, honeypotting, and the somewhat hilarious examples of dealing with "the agencies" who in that day and age wanted nothing to do with things at first.
It shows how a hacker will go out of his way to investigate leads and connect dots and spend hours upon countless hours exploiting every angle to accomplish their goals. A+++, can't recommend it enough.
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Yes, I forgot to mention the honeypotting Stoll did. It was really cool & fantastic way to lure the hacker in. Very cool. He basically invented all the tools (that we don't use today).
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I read it in the early '90s and, while I don't remember many details, I remember how fascinating it was. Definitely worth reading, imo.
Cheers,
Mike Fidler
"I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright
"I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright
"I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.
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It really is a great read. It is almost a text book. Although it does have a lot of sidebars into Stoll's basic life. A very good read though.
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rant - well it would be nice to read, except amazon in its amazement, decided to hijack the clear url that you placed, but saying nah, redirect you to UK amazon, and instead of showing the search results for that book, will just go to first match: One Flew into the Cuckoo's Egg by Bill Oddie
does not help, that Cliff Stoll's audio book is available on the UK amazon, but nah, why have a good product search.
well another thing to be mindful of with amazon and why some results been skewing up lately
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Sorry about that. very annoying. If you get a chance, check out the book.
It would be a good audio book if you like listening to books. I listen to books a lot.
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to be fair, the original link (as it appears to me) was:
CUCKOOS-EGG-Clifford-Stoll-ebook/dp/B0083DJXCM?keywords=the+cuckoo%27s+egg+by+clifford+stoll&qid=1664891518&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjgxIiwicXNhIjoiMS42OSIsInFzcCI6IjEuNTcifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=the+cuckoo%27s+egg%2Caps%2C241&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll1&tag=radink-20&linkId=0bad07be838f6e2cda5f0984ff490aa3&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
which is not a direct link to the book, but a keyword search (?). To display the above, I had to remove the leading http stuff, as this editor automatically changed it to a link, which was not what i wanted. But the UK page I got did have the keywords in the search box, and clicking on them did get me to the book:
the-cuckoos-egg: Amazon.co.uk: clifford-stoll: 9780743411462: Books[^]
A bit pricey! But also recommended was this:
The Cuckoo's Egg: Tracking a Spy Through the Maze of Computer Espionage: Amazon.co.uk: Stoll, Cliff: 8601200542172: Books[^]
for a more reasonable price. These links with ludicrously long 'referencing' data are a pain.
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This is hands down one of my favorite books. I happen to run across it at a used book store, and thought I'd give it a try, aka no way this will be any good. It blew my mind.
I need to dust it off and re-read it.
Are there any other books out there as good as this? Please share!
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Yes, read it years ago and just the other day was talking to someone about it. Time to read it again.
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Age Discrimination is rampant in the industry.
I have spent 3 months looking for a job, and that is my experience.
Usual reply from HR people is "While your qualifications are impressive, we have decided to go with another candidate."
I am looking for a steady job for the next 10 years. The average programmer/developer switches jobs every 4 years.
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Edward Aymami wrote: The average programmer/developer switches jobs every 4 years.
My max is five.
How is any of what you said age discrimination?
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I am 73. If it were 1 or tw0 or even 5 I could say they picked someone else better suited.
But 20 to 25（I've lost count) cannot be anything but age discrimination
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We can't rule out recruiter or your incompetency yet.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Thanks for that. My competence is pretty damn good!
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I can't really judge. I can also claim I am a great swimmer but in reality I could be not. I am not saying you are lying or are responsible either. I am just saying there is very little information to conclude anything.
Of course it is stressing to look for jobs and it can certainly take a while. You could ask why they went with someone else so you can ask that upfront at the next application. Also, you would rarely know exactly what they are looking for so never assume you are the one.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Don't be upset if they prefer the experienced people.
We old dogs are, albeit slow, more reliable than you brilliant youngsters. 
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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If only that were true. I am a 19-year-old trapped in 73-year-old body
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Me too, almost 
Paul Sanders.
If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal.
Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.
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Edward Aymami wrote: I have spent 3 months looking for a job, and that is my experience.
So your only experience is in looking for a job, not actually holding one? If so, why would you then fault the "HR people" for going with another candidate?
Edward Aymami wrote: I am looking for a steady job for the next 10 years.
Did you actually say anything of the sort?
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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Every single time. 
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I have 40+ years of having a job! But thanks for asking.
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The fact you got a reply implies you were on a short list; perhaps it's your "interview skills" you have to work on; it's a "sales" job. The whole bit: shirt, shoes, tie, etc.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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