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I like the form factor and lack of extra buttons. Vanilla is my preference in terms of features, so I dig it. But weight is what sold me on this other mouse. I can make it heavy.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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"... lack of extra buttons. Vanilla ..." - I looked it up and it has 11 programmable buttons!
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Oh, I did not see those. Mea culpa
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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honey the codewitch wrote: 1) Is wired, which I insist on
But, why? Why you need this cable?!
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1. My keyboard is wired, and must be wired because wireless doesn't have the bandwidth to do NKRO at this scanrate. Ergo, a wireless mouse is kind of pointless in that application.
2. I don't like batteries if I can avoid them. Even embedded Lipos (basically making the product disposable when the battery finally goes flat)
3. There's nothing worse then going to use your mouse only to realize you forgot to charge it. I have enough trouble with my phone.
4. If I lost it, it wouldn't be the first time.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I'd suggest a Logitech Master 3 and keep the USB charging cable plugged inn all the time. Then you won't be bothered by the mouse being wireless, and it is a really good mouse!
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Single Step Debugger wrote: But, why? Why you need this cable?!
I also prefer a wired mouse. I work in a very RF noisy environment. The office has 440 IT professionals in one room and 3/4 are using wireless mice on the same frequency (company supplied). My wired mouse has a much better and more accurate response. And that's not to mention the wireless keyboards, ear buds, etc.
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Most (/all) wireless mice I have been using have been Logitech, and they all have had a 3-way channel switch. Maybe cheaper brands don't provide alternate channels.
When you bring in ear buds without a single word of comment, I wonder: Don't you see any difference at all between keyboard presses and mouse clicks, and real time media like sound? Believe me: There is a most significant difference. Maybe in the order of a couple orders of magnitude in data volume.
For the RF noisy argument: My last 4 displays (2 at work, 2 at home) has USB sockets along the edge. I always used one of them for the wireless dongle, so the distance between the dongle and the mouse is 60-80 cm in open air when the sockets are on the left hand side of the screen, 30 cm if they are on the right hand side (that varies with the terminal model). If your screen doesn't provide USB sockets, put a small USB hub below your screen - you need it there anyway, for charging your mouse, mobile and other stuff, for hooking up your webcam etc.
For Bluetooth, when the incoming signal is strong, the receiver will reduce its sensitivity to reduce other disturbances. My current mouse is not BT, but I'd guess that it follows the same logic. I have never experienced any RF noise problems, not in any environment at work or at home.
There may of course be mice, keyboards or whatever, managed in a way that can't handle RF noise and/or can't provide sufficiently high bandwidth and short response time. E.g. Logitech MX Master 3 has been a popular mouse among gamers; I guess that is an indicator that when done the right way, wireless mousing (and keyboarding) can be as high-performing as you desire.
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Because the batteries always die at the worst possible time.
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Why don't you buy a wireless mouse charged from a USB socket? My mouse warns well in advance that it needs charging, giving me ample time to dig out a standard USB cable running from the USB socked in the screen to the mouse. I can continue using the mouse while it is charging; no interrupting of my work except for (finding and) plugging in the cable.
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I guess it depends on the size of the charging station. I have pretty limited desk space remaining with all my other, accouterments. I'll check it out!
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Shmoken99 wrote: Because the batteries always die at the worst possible time.
I used to say that about any battery-operated device. Until I thought about it and realized, is there ever a time where you find out the battery died, and you thought to yourself, oh, goodie, perfect timing...
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Because wireless desktop devices have betrayed me too many times for me to trust them when I don't have to.
I will use a bluetooth mouse on my laptop when I'm on the go, but I have a USB mouse plugged into my docking hub at home.
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I use a Logitech G903 with a Logitech Powerplay mouse pad.
The Powerplay is a mousing surface, wireless charger, and receiver for the mouse.
The mouse itself has programmable buttons which can be removed completely, ie you can have 0, 1, or 2 buttons on either side of the mouse.
If the mouse is used on the powerplay at all times it stays between 85 and 95% charged.
I never need to charge my mouse and I do not have the problem of the mouse cable getting caught on things, which I find to be the most annoying aspect of wired mice.
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honey the codewitch wrote: First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502.
I have the version without "hero" and am happy with it
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The best mouse I ever bought was some cheap thing from, of all places, CVS. Go figure. It was wired, very light (I do not like heavy mice, they give me wrist stress fatigue or whatever it may be called) and the button clicks required hardly any pressure.
Enjoy your new mousing experience!
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Years ago I had a wired mouse. All of a sudden my cursor/mouse pointer started moving by itself. Turns out the mouse tail had fallen off the side of the desk and was heavy enough it was pulling the mouse sideways.
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I ended up with a gaming mouse for this reason. Has annoying Leds, but can turn them off in bundled software. Semi quiet clicks, adjustable DPI and side buttons. Programmed them for home and end to quickly move around code editors and webpages.
Jay Walks
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It is indeed hard to find. I consider the following points when buying one,
1. The mouse must fit my palm. I have a bit above average size palms and a small mouse is a nightmare to move around since I can't use my palm to do it. Unhealthy for the wrist it is.
2. Variable DPI, it is helpful if can set the DPI of the mouse as I want. Helps me when I have to switch from a smaller to a big monitor and vice-versa.
3. Weight: I mostly use keyboard shortcuts to get around my computer however when I do use my mouse, I prefer it to be not too heavy. And since the wire adds to the drag, heavy mice are again bad for your wrist.
4. Clicky: I just like the sound of the click feedback.
My current preference is the Lenovo Legion M300 fits all my criteria while not being expensive.
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Quote: A good mouse is hard to find!
That's not true.
Consider Mickey Mouse, for instance.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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I always loved the Microsoft 4500 series, simple and comfortable.
Now I have a Razer Naga Pro and it's the best freaking mouse I ever used.
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Hard to tell from web photos, but is that a right-hand configuration only?
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It is, I'm not sure if they sell reversed versions.
For me it's a dream though (considering I paid 100 € it had to be). The exchangeable side panels are a godsend for a gamer like me.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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This is not going to get much applause here, but I have used a (several) magic mouse(s) from apple. I doubt they work with win boxes.
It has a few drawbacks, but one killer feature that has made me endure the drawbacks to the point where I simply buy a new one whenever the current one goes dead.
The drawbacks:
- it's a battery hog
- it sometimes drops it's connection
- it completely wears out in 3-5 years
BUT: it has a touch surface on top (actually the entire top surface is touch sensitive).
That means you can scroll in all directions in any application with an almost imperceptible movement of your finger across the surface, and not just scrolling, you can use it to flip through pictures in a photo's app, pages in a browser, even flip entire workspaces (with a 2-fingered gesture).
I only wish they would make a wired version as that would fix drawbacks 1 and 2.
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Same story. Same likes and rubs - and the battery cover coming off all the time! I just couldn't come to buy another one after my 3rd one died.
I did get the Microsoft Arc Mouse which kind of has the touchpad on the top. Works with Windows and Linux - but my Mac doesn't even see it! Figures.
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