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0x01AA wrote: The city's mothers and fathers parents
FTFY 
IMAO, as far as sex is concerned, XY == boy/man; XX == girl/woman. The tiny fraction of people who are neither (XXY, XYY, etc.) should be classified according to their external sexual organs. This leaves an even tinier fraction who have both or neither, who should be classified as they wish to be classified.
As far as sexual orientation is concerned, as long as you don't do it in the street and frighten the horses...
Now, if only everyone were as logical as me... 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: Now, if only everyone were as logical as me
You mean if this was the best of all possible worlds. 
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I use the restroom that won't scare people. Has nothing to do with my chromosomes and everything to do with not causing a scene.
It wouldn't be logical to go by chromosomes because you can't blood test everyone you meet.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: IMAO, as far as sex is concerned, XY == boy/man; XX == girl/woman. The tiny fraction of people who are neither (XXY, XYY, etc.) should be classified according to their external sexual organs.
Pretty much this. What the snowflakes want others to call them is another matter.
My simplistic, perhpas naive mind goes something like this. Say you've just been diagnosed with a potentially fatal disease. Two medical procedures exist. One is certain to kill a man, but save a woman. The other will kill a woman, but save a man. When the doctor asks you which procedure you want to have, I think your choice of pronouns is gonna be the first thing out the window, no...?
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And generally those who don't have either XX or XY have other significant issues. Downs' Syndrome is just one example of this.
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I can understand the "Rachel's parent/caregiver" especially if you do not know Rachel's home situation. She might be in a single parent home living with only her Dad. She might even be in the foster program and living with foster parents.
If Fred wants to be identified as female, I personally don't like it but fine, just don't compete in athletics against biological females.
I'm going to stop there before I get into trouble.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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MarkTJohnson wrote: I'm going to stop there before I get into trouble.
That's a huge part of the problem, isn't it? You'd like to express an opinion, but abstain from doing so out of fear someone's gonna get upset. We're not gonna get anywhere, ever, if there's no tolerance.
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That a little bit, more though I don't have the time nor energy to expend on an argument that won't change anyone's mind,
and the Soapbox no longer exists.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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Right, I was merely making a general statement, I wasn't urging you to post anyway.
Besides, one has to pick his battles. IMO this one isn't worth of my time either.
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I'm sorry the idiocy of the American Left has infected Switzerland. Our left simply doesn't understand basic biology.
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I think the world is more complex than "left" and / or "right" ... which neither side seems to grasp.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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obermd wrote: I'm sorry the idiocy of the American Left has infected Switzerland. Our left simply doesn't understand basic biology.
Believe me... that is not only about the american left.
Spanish one is in some things worse than american.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I wonder how many CPians are just staying out of this, since this is a huge soapbox issue?
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I'm surprised the thread even got this far and I am expecting to have my bank account closed, to be denounced by my government and to face a struggle session just for posting this 
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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One thing AI does, is make you think harder about what you say in order to get past the "classification" that either accepts or rejects one's contributions based on who's AI is moderating the discussion / posting.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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We would actually might talk about many things, if the threads remained calm and civilized.
So far, it was like this.
Yes, it usually degenerates pretty fast.
Hey, maybe we have matured... (yeah, I am a bit idealist I know)
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Simple FIX we get a syndicated show on TV or Social Media where Politicians
get 10 min to spew views.
Call it "Trash & Garbage View's"
Guest moderator from various communities that pick the subject to discuss.
Inflate the number of viewers to entice said participants.
YEP no one watches but said participants think they are reaching constituents.
WIN WIN we don't watch and they get to talk
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If I had a young kid, I'd advise him/her/them/they to go into the field of psychology, because there will be a lot of him/her/them/they's that will be needing therapy from not knowing who is their mom and who is their dad, having grown up with their parents being "parent" or "caregiver." 
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This topic has had such a MAJOR response, I am pretty sure someone else has replied in the way I am about to. Here's my 2cents anyway.
1) People can't help how they are made. They should be treated with dignity and respect. However, they should not push the way they are made on anyone else.
2) There is a big stink here about Trans-gender male athletes participating in women's sports where, due to their genetic makeup as male, they have a decided edge.
3) Most of this is due to the liberal media pushing the concepts mentioned in the original post.
4) I am neither conservative nor liberal. I believe people should only be treated/judged based on what they do, not anything else.
5) Political correctness is a crock.
6) This is absolutely, definitely NOT the world I grew up in. 
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The world I grew up in was New Orleans, not New York. Not the same by any measure. We were taught tolerance, and respect. I deplored the racial intolerance as well and my family and friends did too. I grew up playing with black kids in my neighborhood and no one there thought anything about it.
By the time I was in high school, Gays and Bi-sexual induvial were accepted here as well.
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You might keep in mind though...
Louisiana only allowed gay marriage due to the Supreme court decision in 2015.
Now in New Orleans they allowed 'unions' in 1999, but those were banned at the state level in 2004. Thus nullifying it in New Orleans.
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It's everywhere and it's just as ridiculous. People with no life and nothing better to do creating problems where non exist. So just goes to show how many people are brainwashed by TV.
Jeremy Falcon
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Microsoft wrote [2014-10-28]:
Support and updates for Office 2003 is no longer available. Office 2003 products no longer receive the following:
Assisted support
Online content updates
Software updates from Microsoft Update
Security updates to help protect your PC from harmful viruses, spyware, and other malicious software, which can steal your personal information.
<rhetorical>So why is my system installing a ton of security updates and such for Office 2003 today? </rhetorical>
Edit: I just pulled up information about a few of the updates and they're from 2012 -- which means Microsoft is about eleven years late in delivering them.
These should have been applied back when I built this system and installed Office some years ago (not sure when).
modified 22-Sep-23 10:47am.
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