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Graeme_Grant wrote: I have most web browsers installed so I can test
Ditto. Professionally, my group develops on Edge as that is the organization standard, and it works fine. We test on Chrome and Firefox.
The ancient application we replaced a year+ ago ran ONLY on IE (yeah, it was that old) and pre-Win10, the org standard was IE. We cheered when that changed, and cheered again when the customer agreed we didn't need to support IE!!!
On my Android phone I use DuckDuckGo, and occasionally Bing. I don't use Chrome for anything. On my personal PCs, I use Vivaldi (Chrome clone) as my primary, with Edge and Firefox installed and used occasionally. I don't have Chrome installed.
It's weird, but I trust Microsoft more than Google. This doesn't mean I trust MS; rather that I see MS as the lesser evil, even if not by much.
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Graeme_Grant wrote: I'm actually enjoying "Opera One developer".
It's good to hear someone mention Opera.
I used it quite extensively back in 2010-2012 time period, but then there was one site (probably my most important site) where it wouldn't work. Oreilly.com (where I'm a subscriber to tech books online). At the time it wouldn't render books properly and I couldn't read in Opera so I gave up on it.
I need to try it again, because I did like the browser quite well.
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I switched to Opera couple years ago, never looked back.
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Very few people mention Opera.
I used it back in 2010-2012 quite extensively but it didn't support one important site (oreilly books) for me and I gave up on it. It was a really nice browser even then. I need to try it out again.
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It's very solid and fast, I've got zero complaints.
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I'm locked into the Chrome ecosystem for better or worst - probably worse.
But syncing everything across all my devices with basically one transparent service is just too appealing to me.
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https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
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honey the codewitch wrote: But syncing everything across all my devices with basically one transparent service is just too appealing to me.
Yeah, I totally understand that. I think Chrome did that first and it is really great so you can open a tab on a different device later on than the one you originally opened it on.
FF has it's own way of doing that (and of course you need yet another account) but it works really great. And, they don't use the data to track you which is nice.
Brave does this also and without the tracking.
It's difficult to break the ecosystem because they are so convenient but quite a few years ago I was on Android phone, Chrome browser, Google Docs, Google Search and I thought it was too much.
Now I use an iphone, DuckDuckGo, Brave to break it up.
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I am one of the most boring "consumers" on the Internet. They can track me all they want. Ain't gonna do anything useful with it.
"Wow, honey is browsing codeproject... again"
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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I mostly (98%) run Brave, with some use of Vivaldi when I want 2 sites on the screen. Keep Firefox for rare occasions when the others don't render. Now making me wonder about Opera, ran it years ago.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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I use FF mostly. Been using it for more than 8 years.
I have Chrome installed, and use it occasionally for Google App stuff and sometimes when a site doesn’t function properly with FF.
I loaded Vivaldi, It has an email client interface that I use on the rare occasion that I want to check an account that won’t add to Outlook.
Of course, I have Edge, but frown and cuss when it gets called from a clicked link.
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events.
- Manly P. Hall
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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Mark Starr wrote: Edge, but frown and cuss when it gets called from a clicked link.
Yes, recently that new "feature" they added where if you click a link from Outlook client then Edge says, "Hey, you clicked the link from Outlook so we'll make Edge your default browser for that." is annoying. Now you not only have a "default" system browser, but you have a "default" browser when link clicked from Outlook. Great, MS. We want one default. Imagine if every application that you clicked a link from tried to make a different default browser. No thanks.
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I used chrome for some years, but fot proposes of security begin to use FF and it has been excellent!
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My main browser is Vivaldi but I do have to switch every now and then. There's a financial site I use and the only browser that lets me login is Edge. Chrome, Firefox and Vivaldi just don't work there. Seems weird that Edge will work but Chrome and Vivaldi won't. Aren't they all based upon Chromium?
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Last 10 years i used Opera and I'm not going to change it yet
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Glad to hear someone mentioning Opera.
After switching to Brave (again) from FF, I'm starting to get settled in, but I'm going to check out Opera and see how it runs on :
* Linux desktop,
* iPad Pro
* windows 10
I wonder if it has features for "sharing" open tabs like other browsers? Probably does.
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You mean as my default, regular work web browser?
I think the last time I switched in that sense was in 2004, when I started to use Firefox. Before that, I had used Opera for a couple of years after Netscape died when AOL bought them off.
Never had any serious issue with Firefox, certainly much less than with any other browser pretender. Only issue that I encountered was that when they changed their API for browser extensions, a couple of add-ons didn't work anymore and the re-designed ones, using the new API, never created the same functionality. But that's where Waterfox (Classic) came to the rescue... 
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Thanks to this post I went poking around on a practically full system SSD while describing in my mind a scenario where I would begin thinking about cloning it, after backup, and discovered that IE11 was still coming about. So today (that's right, she's on autopilot) I went to Control Panel/Programs and Apps/Windows Features and things(sp?) and unticked it's box.
So in answer to your actual question, once in a blue moon.
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i've stuck w/ Edge as i am fond of the "Collections" feature .
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This below post started as a question, then I gave it one last try, now it is a rant...
I am looking for a Linux app for examining images (BMP). I feel that my requirements are modest, but no application I have tried meets the following. I need to visually compare minuscule differences in sequence of images.
* Zoom in as elephant, I need pixels as big as peas
* Zoom in without filtering, I must see the original pixels
* Maintain the zoom as I flick through the images (am I only one in 8 billion who needs this?)
I have tried these: eog, nomacs, pinta, feh, mirage, ristretto.
Most of them zoom out always. Nomacs, starts with a promise, but zooms out to 100% randomly. Mirage just crashes. Many of them filter the large image.
Suggestions welcome. Thanks.
After several days of frustration, I just now tried qview. That one works. Elephant!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Could you just zoom part of your window and then look at the images in that area?
If that will work, you go to
Settings...Accessibility...
click the Zoom item to turn it on and then set the area where zoom will be in effect.
See this snapshot[^].
Hope this helps.
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Thanks but... this one also filters, and the "Full screen" zoom was quite hard to escape back from. I need like 20x zoom
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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megaadam wrote: am I only one in 8 billion who needs this?
To be fair far, far fewer than that will do anything with images except just look at them as some media site presents it. And probably of those won't be looked at at all.
Then of that vast subset only a much smaller subset are those that do create/edit images. And those are going to be looking at the macro scale.
megaadam wrote: visually compare minuscule differences in sequence of images...Maintain the zoom as I flick through the images
I have never seen a request like that before.
Curious as to the use case.
Matter of fact when one says "minuscule" I wonder what you do with different color graduations? Say just one bit difference in the blue of one pixel? Seems unlikely that you could visually see that.
Myself I would expect programmatically it to be easier. I would probably write code to read the image, perhaps provide a bounding region, then compare the pixels via the bytes.
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I agree. I compare pixels instead of "looking" at them.
(I have an app that "corrects" pictures by rejecting any pixel that doesn't match a given palette, and "fills" the hole with the last valid pixel (on that "row"). Effectively "erases" things you don't account for).
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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jschell wrote: far fewer than that
Far fewer than one in 8 billion? You make me feel lonely. With 8 billion humans on Earth, where do you find all the other image viewers? Or am I far fewer than one? Well, that would explain it.
The use-case is OCR, un-italicisizing italic non-latin script, to improve the OCR-output. Have I done it programmatically? Yes, I have. The subjective assessment of the images is just a complement to that.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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We have almost exactly that workflow in one of our products. We use it to examine camera images during a calibration process.
You wouldn't believe the gyrations I went through in our UI trying to display simple pixel-accurate bitmaps in WPF. I finally gave up and used an embedded WinForms control.
Software Zen: delete this;
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