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Maximilien wrote: Maybe there's just something I don't get from the system.
It's not you.
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Stick with git. It'll take you much further and make you more flexible.
Jeremy Falcon
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I haven't run into any issues with using Git. I use Git via Visual Studio and Azure DevOps Repos, and to me, it is seamless. I get the idea of a local repo and a remote repo, with branching, that Git uses. I have used Bitbucket and Subversion, liked both, and found I like Git more, especially for team use.
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Maximilien wrote: but going from git to TFVC feels like a step back.
Because it is a step back...
TFVC is a centralized version control system, like Subversion.
You basically went from Git, which is decentralized, back to a different flavor of Subversion.
Microsoft has been ditching TFVC in favor of Git for years now.
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Exactly. I dunno about you, but a good dev does frequent (ok, not too frequent) commits. I don't miss slow commits at all. 
A commit is a check-in for the non-git folk among us.
Jeremy Falcon
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When I was managing a dev team of 6 on a pretty large codebase, we used TSVC and later Git. TSVC worked very well for us, and was relatively easy to manage. The obvious difference was centralised vs. decentralised/distributed. We didn't need that complexity. Torvaulds designed Git because he was managing many developers spread around the world in different time zones, and the distributed nature of Git matched that. You pick the tool suited to the job in hand.
Moving from any tool you are familiar and competent with to another is often going to feel awkward, if not a backward step, until you are experienced with the new one. Persevere and you will eventually find they both have their strengths and weaknesses.
With regard to "must use commandline" (or Gui) I find the professional elitism or evangelism that pervades so many software developers irksome and irritating, and use of the command line as some sort of implied superiority especially so. I use the command line myself when it's easier or has options I need that are not supported by the available Gui tools, and Gui tools when they are more convenient. The commanline is useful for automating processes with scripts, most other times it's easier to use a Gui. Just pick the approach that suits the circumstances.
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"Use the right tool for the right job." Git is not the right tool for any job I've had, but TFS is.
I have never had a job in which a distributed version control system would make a positive difference.
I found TFS to be much more usable than Git -- TFS just worked. Git was a step back. Maybe the Visual Studio Git integration will some day be up to what we have with TFS.
For myself, my experience is more like:
CMS (OpenVMS) -> look at VSS, reject it -> look at Subversion, reject it, get forced to use it anyway -> rolled my own* -> Subversion again, but with Tortoise -> TFS -> get forced to use Git -> roll another of my own
What makes CMS and TFS superior to VSS, Subversion, and Git is Classes (in CMS) and Labels (in TFS). The others do not have an equivalent feature.
TFS also has integrated ticketing and a .net API, which makes it the best system I currently know of.
A feature which CMS (OpenVMS only) has which the others don't is the ability to target multiple libraries (repositories) at the same time -- I wish the others would add that, but they won't. CMS also supports Groups, which the others don't.
HP has again killed the OpenVMS Hobbyist program, so I can't give any demos of how great CMS is.
* I may have mentioned this before. I began it in 2009 (as I recall) and I got it to a vaguely usable state before reaching a major decision point and stalled. The major features are pretty much that of CMS. Occasionally, I think about getting back on it.
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I wish I could say that my experience was that TFS "just worked", because I found the opposite to be true. I've used (and administrated) all of these source control systems:
* Perforce
* ClearCase
* TFS
* git (in CLI and also via BitBucket, GitLab, GitHub)
* svn
* SourceSafe (which is by far the worst of all of these)
* MKS Source Integrity
* PVCS
* CVS
* sccs
* CMS (VAX)
Of these, TFS is a bottom-quartile experience. If you're heavily into the Windows dev train, then it bumps up in usefulness just a hair, but it still sucks. There are 3 items on this list that I'd quit my job over rather than use again, and TFS is one of them.
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Br.Bill wrote: If you're heavily into the Windows dev train
Oh, yes, I agree with that. I should have added a qualifier. I doubt anyone would use TFS if they are not using Visual Studio.
I was mainly using SSIS, which necessitated the use of Visual Studio anyway.
Trying to use Git with SSIS was very problematic (for me anyway, there were other issues involved [e.g. corporate politics] which didn't help) and I had to create a nasty work-around to get it to work.
I have never had a choice of version control system, they are always dictated by management.
As to writing code (C/C++ C# etc.) I prefer not to use Visual Studio at all.
Similarly for SQL code -- I develop that in SSMS, not Visual Studio, then I have to generate scripts via the SMO API in .net to get them right.
modified 7-Nov-23 18:56pm.
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I totally and publicly renege all my previous cussing, blaming, excoriations, and bad-mouthing of AOMEI.
It isn't quite fair to judge a piece of software when my USB interface is delivering about fourteen or fifteen Megabytes Per Second.
And...
That figure itself is being very generous to the USB hardware. I highly suspect that the speed number is about ten or twelve. I used a stopwatch in my hand and watched Two Gigabytes of files go across a Microsoft Windows Explorer file copy. It was five individual files.
They (Microsoft) now have a little speedometer that shows you the instantaneous transfer rate as the files are being moved from one place to the other. The highest number that I ever saw, I think, was 32 Megabytes Per Second, and that was just occasionally.
At this moment, the hardware of my PC appears to be the problem.
Resolved: Yes, I really should put my own PC together with my own two hands.
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C-P-User-3 wrote: The highest number that I ever saw, I think, was 32 Megabytes Per Second
That sounds about right for a USB 2.0 port maxing out.
From some random search:
Quote: USB 2.0 clock speed is 480 megabits per second. That's 60 megabytes per second. Given the protocol overhead and the fact that USB 2.0 is half-duplex, the maximum data rate will be 30-40 megabytes per second. The 480 megabits per second limit applies to the USB controller and is shared between the ports attached to it.
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So, on my (Win'10) machine, under "Device Manager", and clicking on "Universal Serial bus Controllers", I read...
...I clearly lack understanding.
Brain assistance is always welcome.
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I suppose it's entire possible to have a USB3 controller that has some USB2 ports connected to. Or a USB3 controller that is (incorrectly) configured to work in 2.0 mode. I have to think this would be a BIOS setting.
Someone with more knowledge on this topic that I do should be able to provide better informed answers. Ultimately it's not because a controller is reported as 3.0 that it means that's what it'll always use...
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Is the thing you have plugged into this USB controller USB3 compatible?
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Peter Adam wrote: Is the thing you have plugged into this USB controller USB3 compatible?
You is a mind reader
That has been my exact question for days now.
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I realize this is five days ago but I was looking for a senseful comment on "intelligent" and this is what I wandered into; yes, I read the other backup software post made adjacent to this about the same issue of slowness.
If I'm reading this correctly, XHCI driver installed, this computer is now ok and everything runs as expected?
Didn't slow mouse movement come before USB drive speedlessness?
Anyway, about your use of the word "clone" in reference to building your own computer, AOMEI as I recall once installed has an icon on the main menu for HELP. Within the document spawned by a click on it, you'll find two words which it might be to a user's advantage to consider as contrasting idioms "CLONE" and "IMAGE". For what it's worth a CLONE can be made to a target drive partition and is used in reference to a drive and it's partition(s). An IMAGE is technically just a backup of whatever the software can say is an origin made to some storage space available in the system, possibly to external USB, DVD, CD, etc. And that is a file with an extention.
So, your mouse really didn't drive you crazy before your drives came into general use? I'm amazed and astonished. 
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Short hearing container (9).
Short = Brief
hearing = case
Container = Briefcase
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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If you don't know the use for liquid nitrogen or what CListCtrl is for.
If you can't remember why the elephant came into the room.
Then you haven't been here very long.
veni bibi saltavi
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You forgot the sunshine ![Sunshine | [little ray of sunshine]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/sunshine.gif)
  
I actually am here longer than you, but still do not know why / when the ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) came into the room. I know what it means and so on, but it came in while I was travelling a lot and not so active in CP.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: do not know why / when the [mastadon] came into the room
![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) and ![Sunshine | [little ray of sunshine]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/sunshine.gif) are known as the "Michael Martin" rule. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Scrotum?
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nothing anywhere near as polite! 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Was he not the one answering scrotum to every CCC published in the lounge?
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Or was that "Debbie Does . . ." to all the movie posts?
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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