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Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land. "Grok" is a total misnomer for something that doesn't really understand anything.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I've read them. Lovecraft was a fascist
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TL;DR.
If you have a problem, condens it.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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jschell wrote: And did you check the license?
I always check the license, and I tend to avoid things that aren't licensed unless I know from context that it's public domain - even then maybe that's not the best practice. 
But yeah, I want people to respect my licenses so I try to respect other people's.
As far as the rest of your comment, mostly it just gives me another reason to sideeye "AI"
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honey the codewitch wrote: I always check the license,
So do I. But so far I have never worked with anyone else that does. I have worked with multiple people that are not even clear on what I am talking about what I bring it up. Additionally there are sub-dependent libraries which are often ignored as well.
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Gosh that seems irresponsible. And they do this for commercial code? I'm assuming so. Yikes! 
Man, that really is begging for trouble, to my mind, but then I always assume the source code I produce will eventually find it's way into the world so I assume someone will see it. I mean, I don't need that to keep me honest, but it keeps me honest, if that makes sense.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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honey the codewitch wrote: And they do this for commercial code?
Yes.
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Seriously, it's not FB and it's not here... save for one or two peeps. Or maybe they're smart enough to avoid the lounge, and I'm not. Willing to accept I'm not the intelligent one here. 
I always thought about looking into Mensa, but I'm not so sure that's worth it to be honest. Maybe I should reevaluate.
For real though, looking for intelligent peeps so I can have a higher quality of chat. Online bickering with ignorance isn't fulfilling anymore. There's no advancement in that. It's actually revolting and disgusting in my view.
Maybe I'm not being realistic or perhaps I'm too immature to simply ignore the clowns. Will accept that because I seem to attract them. Just want to know where the intelligent people are because so far, they're very, very rare it seems.
Btw, if you say you're intelligent you're not. And if this offends you, you're also not.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Maybe I'm not being realistic
This, I think.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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He could start his own cult? As a cult leader absolute agreement with the cult leader is always required.
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At present, it seems as though most online cults are politically based boooorrrring. 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Doesn't someone have to think they are intelligent to decide they can accurately assess the intelligence of others?
And what did he say about that? I forgot already.
Anyway, if anyone needs to know anything about Jeremy, they just need to read that post.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
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honey the codewitch wrote: if anyone needs to know anything about Jeremy, they just need to read that post.
I can agree with that statement, but we might disagree on what it indicates.
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Well myself I get what you are saying as you intended it.
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jeron1 wrote: This, I think.
Gotta agree with that. Refusing to accept reality is the definition of insanity I suppose. Dang it. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Mensa is weird.
The few people I know that were mensa, were not pleasant, mostly large ego and obnoxious.
if you want to have a quality chat on various topics, find local groups with in-person meetings.
Also, being intelligent is different than being informed and be able to talk about stuff.
Again, I know a lot of people who are intelligent but only in their fields, they are not curious about anything else.
Good luck.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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Maximilien wrote: with in-person meetings
This. 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Something over 40 years ago now I joined Mensa and went along to some meetings (North London-ish). Meetings were chaotic, childish, and seemed primarily to act as a vehicle for getting drunk or laid or both. Very little indication of different-to-normal intelligence. Didn't renew my membership. Maybe it was just that group, maybe things have changed.
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DerekT-P wrote: Meetings were chaotic, childish
So it's like CP?
DerekT-P wrote: primarily to act as a vehicle for getting drunk or laid or both
Ok, so it's not like CP.
DerekT-P wrote: Didn't renew my membership. Maybe it was just that group, maybe things have changed.
Thanks for this. This was also my concern. I see IQ tests as mental mast********, but I also like the idea of weeding out the fluff. Go figure.
Jeremy Falcon
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IQ doesn't measure intelligence. IT's a circle jerk
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Maximilien wrote: The few people I know that were mensa, were not pleasant, mostly large ego and obnoxious.
That's been my concern as well. It would be worse, not better. IQ tests aren't perfect (diff discussion for a diff day) but they can most certainly give a false sense of something.
Maximilien wrote: if you want to have a quality chat on various topics, find local groups with in-person meetings.
Easier than said than done. I've ran meetup groups before, and I used to check them out. While people don't bicker and argue as much in person, you're not always meeting a genius.
Maximilien wrote: Also, being intelligent is different than being informed and be able to talk about stuff.
Yeah. There's more than one type of intelligence though. I totally agree; I would just extend that concept of saying a person that can chat coherently is expressing a different kind of intelligence ya know.
Maximilien wrote: Again, I know a lot of people who are intelligent but only in their fields, they are not curious about anything else.
I used to think this, but no longer do. I don't define knowledgeable as intelligent. To me, being intelligent takes a certain amount of introspection that a lot of people don't have. Granted, others may refer to this as wisdom, but after years of talking to non-introspective peeps I'm no longer convinced they're even intelligent by the classic definition. I'm jaded man.
Maximilien wrote: Good luck.
Thanks buddy.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: IQ tests aren't perfect (diff discussion for a diff day) but they can most certainly give a false sense of something.
They are wrong, according to them I should be half genious and I know I am not.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: While people don't bicker and argue as much in person, you're not always meeting a genius.
Genious tend to be a bit difficult socially, being that much "ahead" mostly isolates them from a good part of people.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Yeah. There's more than one type of intelligence though. I totally agree;
Jeremy Falcon wrote: I would just extend that concept of saying a person that can chat coherently is expressing a different kind of intelligence ya know.
is that not actually eloquence?
Jeremy Falcon wrote: I don't define knowledgeable as intelligent.
Not the only one thinking this
Jeremy Falcon wrote: To me, being intelligent takes a certain amount of introspection that a lot of people don't have.
Do not forget the ability to observe, to analyze and to adapt to the surroundings / current situation. I find that the most important part of intelligence.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Granted, others may refer to this as wisdom
For me wisdom is the hability to use the knowledge the proper way.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: Genious tend to be a bit difficult socially, being that much "ahead" mostly isolates them from a good part of people.
Oh I know. I've argued over the years with people like on CP on crap I was 100% correct about before it happens. Most of my experience here has been nothing but arguing with people pretending to be smart.
Nelek wrote: is that not actually eloquence?
One could argue that being eloquent is a form of intelligence. This is squabbling over semantics man. This is what I'm talking about. People just argue to sound smart but while losing the actual point of the message.
Nelek wrote: Do not forget the ability to observe, to analyze and to adapt to the surroundings / current situation. I find that the most important part of intelligence.
People should adapt, but not at the expense of becoming dumber or not true to themselves. The fact that I've been trying to adapt means I agree with the idea. But as always, there's going to be a stupid argument on CP, etc. by people who are just not worthy of other people's time. So, there's adaptation and then there's wasting time in life with mindless repetition. Find the balance, else we have no advancement in life.
Nelek wrote: For me wisdom is the hability to use the knowledge the proper way.
Side note, I'm sure you know, but you and I have had some decent chats. So, I know there are peeps here that can hold a normal conversation with some substance. They just be rare.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Side note, I'm sure you know, but you and I have had some decent chats. So, I know there are peeps here that can hold a normal conversation with some substance. They just be rare.
Awww, get a room, you two... 
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Ha ha ha ha
Jeremy Falcon
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