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No, in the beginning was a db25 serial port, and thost made yer own cables man. And booted up the old pdp 11/70 by throwing pretty plastic pink and purple switches on or off in ancient octal. If you did that right and made your cable right minding rts and dtr handshakes if required, you might get the holy boot scriptures to come out on the teletype.
Someone will come along and say how soft we had it doing the former and all about the punch cards. To the card punch coders, Dilly - Dilly!
modified 14-Nov-23 8:20am.
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I have a vague recollection that the 20mA current loop on the ASR33 I used at school had a different connector - possibly a DB9, and that was a relatively modern interface, having been introduced in the 60's.
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Alister Morton wrote: that was a relatively modern interface, having been introduced in the 60's.
That didn't seem likely to me...man was I wrong. You were a bit off as well.
D-subminiature - Wikipedia[^]
"The D-sub series of connectors was introduced by Cannon in 1952"
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I meant the 20 mA current loop became common sometime early 60's
The Cannon connectors were much older, yes.
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DE9 - B denotes the shell size </pedantry>
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Well, yes, and to be fair this connector shell was the old style metal casting with a retaining wire loop; not sure what designation that would get to be honest.
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Ron Anders wrote: booted up the old pdp 11/70 by throwing pretty plastic pink and purple switches on or off in ancient octal
True story: A class in college (early 1980's) used PDP-11/05's. The bootstrap was 80 words, stored in a core memory board. Sometime student programs would wipe the board, and you had to put the bootstrap back in using the panel switches. I had to do it a couple of times, and it took me about 5 minutes to make sure it was correct.
There was one guy in the lab who did it so often, he could set all 80 words in under 60 seconds  .
Software Zen: delete this;
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I ran into the push toward the networking stage with MS trying to push everyone towards subscription based Office. You have to look and dig, and sometimes argue with your vendor, but there IS still a LTSC (Long Term Support Channel, ie, "stand alone, non-subscription based" version of Office. I had to find it myself, argue with my vendor about the availability, until they finally found it and offered it to me.
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Yes.
I suspect that if Microsoft wants to continue to sell to governments, all governments, then they are always going to need an option that doesn't require accessing the internet.
That would be there will be cases where there is not internet by design/regulation/law.
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Funny story - there was a time about 4 years ago when our internet suddenly went to sh*t - as in sometimes it was fine, other times it was totally unusable. This went on for a week, until I noticed that the rubbish performance started just after my son woke up in the morning. Then it occurred to me that the start of the troubles coincided with a new laptop he'd bought. So then I took a look, and I realised that the Windows installed on that system was set up to upload the contents of the user home directory to the new fangled "One Drive" system, supposedly for backup purposes. Of course, my son had around 30GB of gaming data stored in that directory, and we were still on ADSL at the time (A standing for asymmetric, upload speeds being a paltry 100kbps or so), so this was going to take a month of Sundays, and of course ultimately fail, because MS is not generous enough to hand out multi GB of data for free. I had to google the sh*t out of that problem to find out how to disable this on his system.
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I ran into the same thing with my wife's computer. It solved itself when Microsoft filled up the folder all by itself.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I can still USB my phone. I even have an app that lets me browse and download photos on my PC. Do you have a filthy iphone?
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Christian Graus wrote: I even have an app that lets me browse and download photos on my PC
Which one ? One provided from the phone manufacturer, or third-party ?
Browsing photo from the phone is taking ages for me (Android phone).
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I use dolphin, which come preinstalled on my OpenSUSE distro. Works a treat on Android phones - iPhones are still the regular PITA they've always been.
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yes, I have an iPhone. What I really need is a simple flip phone. I guess the camera is useful for taking pictures of products and what not.
I'll post a followup once I figure this out.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: The information sharing and pillaging is out of control.
That's what people want.
Not elaborate host files, not lousy interfaces on their router, not having to remember passwords that require 12 chars with one being a capital, one a number, and at least one a non-char that is recognized.
What people want, is what the manager demands, and what we deliver. It has nothing to do with us protecting anyone.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Would iTunes File Sharing functionality help to move files between iPhone/iPad and Windows laptop, via USB cable. This is what i use. My iPad is seldom connected to Internet .(iTunes app installed on Windows machine).
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ITunes felt like a noob tripping around in Windows land. I used it with the IPad Version 1 and that was the end of that.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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As long as it works, it's okay, isn't it?
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Re: "as long as it works".
I bought her a Kindle to spare her.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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I have a Kindle Fire 1.0. It’s hardware is sufficient for browsing and streaming but Amazon stopped updates 2 years after release including CA certificates.
Useless today except for reading books/PDFs that I side load via PC.
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the evil part - MS hides stuff under layers and layers of dialogs.
It seems that they have redirected My Documents
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Charlie, old friend, you know better. In the Beginning, there was RS232...
I hear ya... This useless Windows 11 won't even let me look at my local drive anymore; it only displays the OneDrive trash I can't seem to kill. Maybe it's finally time to learn Linux. I think we need to start thinking of MS as HAL, and treating them and their overbearing ways accordingly.
Will Rogers never met me.
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you mother trucker. Old farts venting here. This one drive sh*t needs to be a class action suit. I'm still looking for where this POS OS put my damn folder.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I don't get it... what happens to your windows 11?? I'm on it but don't have that issue... (maybe it is because I refused the PIN/Login on cloud BS, dunno)
care to elaborate please?
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