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In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!
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A few days ago my big Intel 1U server shut down a couple of times due to thermal trip events. I did a search on the web and found a support discussion indicating that updating the firmware to the latest version might help.
I was 6 revisions behind the current version.
I've spent 18 hours on getting up to date and I'm not there yet.
Of course the server spends a lot of time apparently doing nothing but there are BIG BOLD WARNINGS saying not to interrupt the process or I might end up with a very expensive 1U brick.
Anyone else have this experience?
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Yes...not for a server, but the idea is the same.
Did you try to jump ahead by those 6 versions in one go, or going sequentially from one to the next?
Who knows how much testing they do...but as much as I hate to suggest it, if it was for myself, I'd be more comfortable going v1 -> v2 -> [...] -> vLatest rather than taking the larger leap.
But it does sound like made progress...is there an actual problem so far, or are you just bringing up the long delays?
I hope your server's on a fully-charged UPS while you're doing that.
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I did it one at a time for exactly the reason you give; could they have tested all those different possibilities with all the different possible configurations? Probably not, and that's also what the vendor's tech support person recommended.
I have a whole house UPS and a generator to keep the batteries charged if there is an outage.
I'm supposedly on the last step now, having made it up to the next to the last one without bricking the server. Hopefully I'll be back to actual useful work pretty soon.
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Any time you update firmware, thou must not lose power. This is very common.
I cannot comment on your server. The firmware update process is very hardware dependent. After working on laptops for 20+ years and sundry other machines, I think I have updated firmware twice. I deem it similar to wiring a 480V panel. My hands start to shake.
Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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My main machine, the one I'm using to post here, is 5 years old and I've never updated the firmware. One reason is that it has a non-standard memory configuration and I'm afraid that a newer firmware revision would prohibit me from using it. Also, so far I haven't found any problems that I thought meant I needed to update the firmware.
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I remember updating the BIOS for my first time ever when I was building my Threadripper machine. The mainboard was quite expensive, and I was sweating bullets as the progress bar crept to the right.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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My motherboard wouldn't take a 13th gen Intel CPU without a firmware patch. Think about it.
I had a 13th gen CPU.
Fortunately my BIOS supports flashback which doesn't need to post in order to flash the BIOS firmware. You just pop a USB stick in the specially marked port and pray for about 8 minutes while a little red light flashes.
I was white knuckling it through the whole process. Just a flashing red light. I was waiting for it to say "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave" 
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Does the documentation specify the wording of the prayer?
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Any news?
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Thanks for asking.
Yes, I finally have updated to the latest firmware revision.
The last update, to version 9, took three tries.
1. The "normal" way from the uefi built-in shell: Claimed to work but after rebooting ended up running very limited fallback firmware.
2. From the BMC remote console using a web browser: "OOB firmware update not supported on this platform."
3. Using the Windows exe, which amazingly worked correctly.
Another complication is that while trying to update the firmware, each reboot took minutes rather than a few second during the memory initialization phase. In the last update phase I finally figured out that was probably because of the 16 Optane DCPMM DIMMs (8 TB memory/storage) in the server, so I took out those DIMMs until the updates were over. I was right about that; the reboot was much faster with them out.
One of the good things about this server is that it's pretty easy to insert and remove DIMMs but it still took awhile because the server is on the floor in my guest bedroom, not the most ergonomic position to work in.
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good to hear. Now, the next question - did the firmware update fix the thermal trip issues? I guess time will tell.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Yes, that is certainly the most important question for me. 
However, even if it doesn't fix the problem, I'm sure if I have to call the server vendor, or Intel for that matter, the first thing they are going to ask is whether my firmware is up to date.
So it's not wasted effort even in that case.
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It's been several days and the server seems considerably more stable. I haven't had any of those crashes.
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Hi All,
Just seen a new I think Emitcon a jacket or coat very useful for jokes has it been added to the hidden list? Where was that list again?🧥
Glenn
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Quote: has it been added to the hidden list? Where was that list again?
It's hidden. 
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glennPattonWork3 wrote: Just seen a new I think Emitcon a jacket or coat very useful for jokes has it been added to the hidden list? Where was that list again?🧥
What's the use of the jacket? How can that be useful in posts?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I'll get my coat :jacket: :coat:
modified 9-Feb-24 20:08pm.
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Agreed. Thanks.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Quote: I'll get my coat...
in bad jokes?
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yes, so that you can leave after telling the bad joke.
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I got it from a site that contains all the standard emojis. Searching on "coat emoji" will turn up a bunch of them. After copy-pasting the emoji into the post, I made it larger by using a <big><big><big> prefix and </big></big></big> suffix.
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