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I have a pretty technical question about Minecraft,
So I'm building a Minecraft server wrapper, and want to add an option to edit the world when the server is offline. That means messing with the save file. I have managed to make it work for 1.8 because the blocks were saved as a list of IDs, but in 1.19 the blocks are saved in a palette (which I understand) and a data array, I understand the data it stores (indices that point to the palette), But I don't understand how to extract (I was able to do it but only by copy-paste) and modify data in there. I really want to understand the mechanics behind it so I can do it myself, I am aware that there are other libs that do that but I want to learn how to do it myself. I have tried different approaches, the most official one I tried is this wiki article: Chunk Format - wiki.vg[^] but it seemed to not work.

The question in more detail can be found here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76440587/how-do-i-read-the-data-section-in-chunk-data-minecraft

What I have tried:

1. Tried to take each 4 bits of a long and shift them 8 and 4 bits to the left or right (all combs didn't work)

2. Tried taking 4 bits of each long and putting it inside a nibble function:
Python
```def nibble(byte_array, index):
value = byte_array[index // 2]
if index % 2:
return (value >> 4) &0x0F
else:
return value & 0x0F```

3. Tried taking the HEX value of the bits and somehow convert it to a number.
No approach from the above worked...

P.S. If you need the code from the WIKI tell me, I couldn't find it but if you need it I'll write it again.
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Updated 4-Jul-23 14:05pm
Richard MacCutchan 10-Jun-23 7:36am
"Tried taking the HEX value of the bits and somehow convert it to a number."
The bits are already a number. A 4-bit field of 1010 is the numeric value 10, 0111 is 7, etc.
Ilai K 10-Jun-23 9:06am
I meant for example the hex number: 0x34
I would take the 3 without the 4 or even just do 3+4 (just any kind of combination that might help)
Richard MacCutchan 10-Jun-23 9:10am
I am not sure what you are referring to. If this is in relation to the palette data then that is explained in the Wiki.
Ilai K 10-Jun-23 10:14am
Yes, I am talking about that. By the Wiki, you mean in here: https://wiki.vg/Chunk_Format#Paletted_Container_structure ?
Because I tried that and it didn't really work, maybe I didn't do it correctly but there are some things in there I didn't understand that don't sound like proper English for example the sentence: "For a bits per block value of 15, the data is stored such that bits 1 through 15 are the first entry", Could you maybe explain it to me, or show me pesudo/python code for it?
Ill try to recreate it tomorrow (lost the code the last time I did it) and show it to you, maybe you'll be able to figure out whats wrong.
Richard MacCutchan 10-Jun-23 10:16am
Sorry, I have never tried to use this feature so I cannot suggest any code. And the Wiki details would take me quite a long time to understand.

## Solution 1

Oh dear. I'm working on the same thing and... it's pretty confusing and I've been coding for 30 years (although too much webby stuff for the last 20, my bitwise stuff is rusty).
I know that's not helpful, but you're not being dumb, this is confusing AND badly documented.
I have made a chunk with a palette of under 16 items and have 256 lots 64 bit ints. Fine. That makes sense...
I have a chunk with 33 items in the palette... forcing it up into 6 bits per item. Now I have 410 lots of 64 bit numbers... hmm. I'm gonna force a 5 bit palette.. and that give 342 lots of 64 bit ints..

OK. So the total *bits* needed for 5 bits *16*16*16*16 = 320 x 64 bits...

but aha! we can fit 12 x 5 bit numbers into one 64 bit numbers (with 4 wasted bits).
And 4096/12 = 341.333 (rounding up to 342... so that makes sense. Each 64 bit number has 5 bits of data).

OK, trying that on the 6 bit palette... we can fit 10 6 bit numbers into 64 (still with 4 bits wasted)... and 4096/10 = 409.6... so that explains the 410 ints in the 6 bit palette.

So that's a clue at least. I've still got to write code to deal with this horror show. I mean, why on earth is it like this? WHYYYY?

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