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Yup, yup. I tried to vote with nothing checked. It didn't happen. I am right with you.
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If it starts to make sense, you're in a cult.
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I do not know any of these buzzwords. So count me in for a null-count.
Please add this option to the poll.
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Tim Smith wrote:
what I would consider only "passing knowledge" about a subject might be someone else's idea of a "guru"
More to the point, how can we know everything about everything ? I think a passing knowledge and a good idea where to look if we need to know more is often all we can hope for.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Christian Graus wrote:
I think a passing knowledge and a good idea where to look if we need to know more is often all we can hope for.
please explain that to the resume screeners.
-c
Please stand by
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Sorry, I specialise in citizens of planet earth....
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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LOL
Tim Smith
I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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Christian Graus wrote:
More to the point, how can we know everything about everything
Don't you have your Junior Woodchucks' Book of Knowledge ? 
I hurt so bad inside
I wish you could see the world through my eyes
It stays the same
I just wanna laugh again
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There is no option for "non of the above", therefore only people that have heard of at least one of the above can parpicipate
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Hear, Hear! I voted for "Boost" because it's the only thing I've heard of.
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ditto.
- Nitron
"Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
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Me too; I feel so dirty. 
I've heard of Boost, Loki, and Full Koenig lookup, but I haven't a clue about any of them.
"Desktop Bob told me to start fires" - thematt
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I guess it was beyond the understanding of the author that anyone would not have used parts of Boost, or read an article on using templates to specify policy. I'll give you that the others are a little vague, although most of the ones I did not tick, I found I knew about when I googled their names.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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All options are checkboxes, so you can click vote without checking any of the options.
Regards
Thomas
Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi
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Let us know how that works out for ya.
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only 33 % know how to use Koenig lookup, and 25% know how to use partial template specialisation ? In comparison, 66% know how to use Boost. Koenig lookup is pretty simple, more so than PTS. I intend to try them all out when I get Everett to finally install, maybe I should do some articles.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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To be honest, if asked at a job interview I'd have to say no to the lot. I've just never had need to use any of these C++ features. Maybe some articles would be useful.
Michael
Fat bottomed girls
You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen
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Same here. If the term "pointers" was on there, I'd know that one, though. 
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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See, I may know some of these things, but I don't know what the words mean, so "without googling" I can't say that I know them.
So "PTS" is partial template specialization, is it?
What is Koenig lookup?
"Empty Aggregate Initializers"? Huh?
"Non-type template parameters"? Like "template <int k> ..."?
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RabidCow wrote:
but I don't know what the words mean
That's a fair call.
RabidCow wrote:
So "PTS" is partial template specialization, is it?
I presume so.
RabidCow wrote:
What is Koenig lookup?
http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/Koenig_Lookup.asp[^] is.
RabidCow wrote:
"Empty Aggregate Initializers"? Huh?
"Non-type template parameters"? Like "template ..."?
I also have no idea what these mean. I intend on googling to find out tonight when I am playing with the Everett beta.
Ah - an aggregate is apparently a class or array with no virtual methods, base classes, inaccessible instanced data members, or user declared constructors. To quote MSDN
You can initialize an aggregate's members with a {}-enclosed list of initializers:
struct X
{
char *p;
int i;
};
X x = {"abc", 123};
int a[3] = {1, 2, 3};
(this is me again, not MSDN). Remember that a struct is a class with default public instead of private. So if this struct had default values on it's members, you should be able to do this:
X x = {};
which is an empty initialiser list. But at present, you can't, not with VC7 or VC7.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Christian Graus wrote:
But at present, you can't, not with VC7 or VC7.
Wow. That precludes almost all versions of VC7! I'm shocked they would have that feature in some but not others... 
You were tired when you wrote this weren't you Christian?
I don't know whether it's just the light but I swear the database server gives me dirty looks everytime I wander past.
-Chris Maunder
Microsoft has reinvented the wheel, this time they made it round.
-Peterchen on VS.NET
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Argh! I didn't understand that PTS stood for Partial Template Specialization.
--
Only in a world this sh*tty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face.
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LOL - I must admit I got it because I was looking for it. With the whole policy templates craze, I think it's probably the single most sought after compliance issue in VC.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Is THAT what made PTS such a big thing. I always thought PTS was cool, but I always wondered why it seemed that overnight it was a must have.
Tim Smith
I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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Yes, Andrei Alexandrescu made it a must have almost overnight.
I must admit that I've only once had a situation in my own code that PTS would have solved, although I also think that there would be more uses found if I had it to use ( i.e. there are multiple solutions to the same problem and I just find another in the absence of PTS ).
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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