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I saw them twice in concert in the mid 80's. Awesome concerts.
Scott
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Ian's line about the "rat making deep-sea-diver sounds" is such a vivid image.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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So there I was, 11 years old. Some of the older guys from the high school and some older than that that I very loosly knew came up to me at the picnic table I was sitting on by myself in the park by my school. They had guitars. They knew I could play a little so they said "Hey Ron, were doing the talent show in the auditorium tonight and we need another guitar player. Ever heard of Locomotive Breath by Jethro Tull.
Whiskey Tango Fox.... No. Jethro..... what?
Oh it's easy, here. And handed me a guitar. they crash coarsed me in 10 minutes and figured I'd do so in we went. I was too much of a nerd to set foot in a school sponsered anything. but we filed in and it was dark with a spot light in a circle of chairs. They pointed me to one and said 1,2,3 and I started in ya know do, na, na, na, not not chuka chucka chuka chuck. And then they all joined in.
We killed it.
Most fun scared shitless time I ever had.
modified 5-Sep-20 8:38am.
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Kool and the gang. 
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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I hope that I will not get flamed for advertising now. But you can find Thick as a Brick, A Passion Play & Locomotive Breath etc in great quality on Spotify.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Thank you very much 
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
Chemists have exactly one rule: there are only exceptions
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Time to annoy everyone with a little poem I wrote after my visit to Skagen:
Quote: Between the buried church and his stone
you will find Drachmanns house
His story is not well known
except by his former spouse
She was one of many
on which he spent a pretty penny
Thoughts washed away by the sea
"Engelske Socialister" were not his cup of tea
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Did you see his grave at Grenen? 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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Yes, that's why I mentioned his stone (or better stones) that are placed on his grave in Grenen.
But I guess he would turn in his grave if he knew that a bunker would be built next to his grave 
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources...
- Front loading washing machines clean clothes better.
- Top-loading washing machines clean better
- They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z]
- The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that
Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ?
Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
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I hear there's some crazy guy in Hyderabad, that knows all about washing machines!
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AFAIK, front loaders replaced top loaders completely in the UK about thirty or fourty years ago - probably because they fit under worktops, so they free up space for cupboards or a dryer on top of them. I remember my mother had a top loader when I was a kid, but I've never seen one for sale.
All I know is "don't mix whites with colours unless you have a sudden yearning for pink shirts".
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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We've picked the top loader with an impeller for our last two washers. It's easier to load bedding stuff.
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But ... isn't it harder to get out when it's wet and heavier?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Dunno I'll ask her. 
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Front loading machines get moldy around the door and start to stink. It requires real discipline to prevent this, and we would never have one again given a choice (we're renting and a moldy front loader came with the house).
A top loader also makes it easy to throw a forgotten item into the washer while it's running.
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Two things to fix that:
1) Don't close the door fully right away - let the machine air out so it's dry before you close the door. Damp air is a breeding ground for fungi and molds.
2) Don't wash everything at a low temperature - I do one bi-monthly load at 60C or 90C to kill fungi. It's also worth running a pack of Dr. Beckmann Service-IT Washing Machine Cleaner[^] once a year or so. Our front loader is what? Ten? Fifteen years old? And it smells fine.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I've had a front loader for 10 years, and the smell was a nuisance until I started running sanitize cycles. I started running a sanitation cycle every week-ish for mop heads and the really gross stuff, and it works pretty well. It's rare that I use any sort of cleaners inside the unit now.
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You can still pause the cycle to throw in a forgotten item (the water level is not higher than the bottom of the door).
And my LG front loader has a built-in door magnet thingy which holds the door almost closed but not latched when not in use.
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It's mostly a water efficiency issue; they all wash cloths.
Old top loading machines were not water efficient; they used a lot of water.
Then came front loading machine which were more water efficient; but the older ones were small as they were mostly European.
Then came top loading machine that are now a lot more water efficient.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I honestly cannot see any technical relation between water consumption and front/top loading design.
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I agree with Greg.
I had a front loader for a while and did not like it. It's hard to get clothes in and out. You have to always leave the door open when not in use and we'd always get bits of hair and dust stuck on the front because they don't drain as well.
I recently bought a new washer and went back to top loader and like it much more.
But, to each their own. They both do what they do.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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C-P-User-3 wrote: is there any real difference in the first place ?
No. We are in 2020, if you target the top 3 brands, the machine are equivalent disregarding their design. Sellers have arguments to make you buy the one they are earning most from.
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If you live on your own you probably don't need a washing machine.
I have been washing my clothes, by hand, with a plastic tub for around 5 years.
The clothes end up just as clean as washing them in a machine.
It also saves me on the electricity and water bill.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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