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C# vs. VB contest - Resolving Mac Mahon problem using .NET

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Rather than discussing forever whether C# is better than VB or vice-versa, let's see which programmers are best.

Sample Image - macmahon2.png

Introduction

For the last two years, every couple of months or so, an article appears claiming “C# is faster than VB.NET”. I agree C# is possibly very slightly faster, I won’t argue. Perhaps it is only fair. Perhaps it is to compensate the fact that C# programmers are probably not as good as VB programmers. You understand that it is time to revive a good old war like we had years ago between Atari and Amiga. If we can't decide which Language is the best, let's see which programmers are the best, whether it is VB programmers or C# programmers.

The Mac Mahon Problem

The problem I want to challenge you with is this one.

You have to complete a puzzle made of 24 pieces. The pieces are displayed in the picture at the beginning of this article.

  1. All the 24 pieces must be used.
  2. Each piece can be rotated to any orientation.
  3. Each segment color must match the color of the adjoining segment.
  4. The puzzle border must be of the same color (red in this case).

This problem can be reproduced on cardboard to play as a solitaire.

A Valid Solution

This is one solution of the problem.

As you can see:

  • It uses all 24 pieces.
  • The border is all red.
  • Each piece shares a color with each of its neighbours.

The Challenge

The challenge is to make a program which looks for a solution for this puzzle. The program has to count how many solutions the puzzle has, and then do it as fast as possible. The existing code is already searching, but not very fast. I let my computer run 24 hours and it did not complete…

VB.NET Results

Date Description Result
14/03/2005

First release
by Pascal GANAYE

10,000 results in more than 24 hours. Did not complete
15/03/2005 Added a few optimizations 106624 solutions in 90 minutes

C# Results

Date Description Result
14/03/2005

No submission yet

-
17/03/2005 Marc Clifton started a C# 77,306 solutions in about 60 minutes

Other Languages

I would love to see another language here. If you have a try, please post something in the forum below.

Points of Interest

As you can see, each piece is divided in 4 triangles and filled with 3 colours. Mathematically, this is a nice problem, because this it is not 24 arbitrary chosen pieces but every single combination. There are 3*3*3*3 = 81 possibilities. But if you remove the duplicates, you end up with only 24 different pieces.

Submission Rules

  • I will post one submission in each submitted language. You can also use this page forum at the bottom.
  • The program can use any sort of optimisation as long as it stays managed .NET and native language (can’t use MSIL).
  • All optimisations must be described. Please no hard coded solution.

I suggest a notation structure for the solutions. If you name the piece A0,B0,C0,...X0.

Sample screenshot A0 Sample screenshot B0 Sample screenshot C0 Sample screenshot D0 Sample screenshot E0 Sample screenshot F0
Sample screenshot G0 Sample screenshot H0 Sample screenshot I0 Sample screenshot J0 Sample screenshot K0 Sample screenshot L0
Sample screenshot M0 Sample screenshot N0 Sample screenshot O0 Sample screenshot P0 Sample screenshot Q0 Sample screenshot R0
Sample screenshot S0 Sample screenshot T0 Sample screenshot U0 Sample screenshot V0 Sample screenshot W0 Sample screenshot X0

The rotated version of Sample screenshot B0 would be called:

Sample screenshot B1 (90 degrees anti-clockwise)

Sample screenshot B2 (180 degrees), and

Sample screenshot B3 (270 degrees).

Then a solution like this one:

could be written like this:

B2 D0 I0 L0 J0 G0
A0 C2 V0 S0 T2 O3
K0 F0 X0 W0 U0 Q3
H2 E0 P2 R2 M2 N3

or even as a single line like this:

B2D0I0L0J0G0A0C2V0S0T2O3K0F0X0W0U0Q3H2E0P2R2M2N3

This will probably help to compare our results.

You can see mine here.

Last Notes

I hope you realize, I don't take this language war very seriously. I just love the Mac-Mahon problem. How can we live without knowing for sure how many solutions there are?

History

  • 14th March, 2005: Initial version

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Comments and Discussions

 
GeneralRe: 5.2 million and counting Pin
Marc Clifton16-Mar-05 15:01
mvaMarc Clifton16-Mar-05 15:01 
GeneralThe number of results battle. Pin
Pascal Ganaye16-Mar-05 11:52
Pascal Ganaye16-Mar-05 11:52 
GeneralRe: The number of results battle. Pin
Marc Clifton17-Mar-05 12:15
mvaMarc Clifton17-Mar-05 12:15 
GeneralRe: The number of results battle. Pin
Pascal Ganaye19-Mar-05 0:20
Pascal Ganaye19-Mar-05 0:20 
GeneralRe: The number of results battle. Pin
Marc Clifton19-Mar-05 1:03
mvaMarc Clifton19-Mar-05 1:03 
GeneralRe: The number of results battle. Pin
Pascal Ganaye19-Mar-05 5:17
Pascal Ganaye19-Mar-05 5:17 
GeneralIt will not prove anything Pin
Oleg Shilo15-Mar-05 16:41
Oleg Shilo15-Mar-05 16:41 
GeneralRe: It will not prove anything Pin
Pascal Ganaye17-Mar-05 3:26
Pascal Ganaye17-Mar-05 3:26 
C# is more readable
C# is more maintainable
C# is more OO by nature
Pascal is not case sensitive for historical reasons

I had a good laugh.

This is the usual exposé.

Let me try to expose some facts:

---------------------------------
C# is allegedly more readable
---------------------------------

for (int i=0;i<10;i++)
{
  if (!i==0 && i%5>0)
  {
  }
}

vb:
For I as Integer = 1 to 10
   if  not i=0 and not i mod 5 > 0 then
   end if
Next

Sure, this is a question of habit. However for a non trained person, I think VB is far more readable.
Myself I find VB more compact, particularly for loops...
How often did a programmer do cut and pase and write
for (int j=0;i<10;j++) ?
This structure is there for historal reason, because C had it.

---------------------------------
C# is more maintainable
---------------------------------
Why ?

---------------------------------
C# is more OO by nature
---------------------------------
No smalltalk is

C# is a new language but it has its C/C++ heritage

VB.net is not an entirely new language however, it looks like the language has been able to evolve a lot more than C++ in the last 10 years.
This is in my opinion why C# appeared as a new language and is not called C++ 2.

A language can be:
- Declarative or not
- Type safe or not

Declarative language
C# is declarative
VB is 100% declarative if you don't turn the option OFF

Type safe or not
C# is type safe
VB is type safe if you don't turn the option OFF

---------------------------------
Pascal is not case sensitive for historical reasons
---------------------------------
This one was the most fun.

In visual studio vb.net if you type a keyword in lowercase and it is declare in lets say camel case. Then your word is replaced automatically. By the way I don't know why but in my version of Devstudio 2003, VB design gives hint at time on syntax errors.
Each time in C# you have to compile to see the errors to appears.

I can't see why I would need to declare a variable i and use it as I
I have been through a number of C# application where the internal variable is called numberofrecords and the corresponding propery NumberOfRecords
How nice.

Case insensitiveness is not a historical feature.
This is a just a tool to allow the programmers to type 90% of their code without pressing shift. You use shift just when you declare variables or functions.

There is more differences between delphi and C# than between Delphi and VB.
Delphi

Delphi is type safe, declarative and case insensitive, just like VB is.

I don't want to add fuel to this war.
The VB / C# war does not exist. The languages are VERY similar.

At the end this is a question of choice but please no condescension
C# is NOT more readable
C# is NOT more maintainable
C# is NOT more OO by nature
GeneralRe: It will not prove anything Pin
Oleg Shilo17-Mar-05 12:09
Oleg Shilo17-Mar-05 12:09 
General77,306 Pin
Marc Clifton15-Mar-05 14:20
mvaMarc Clifton15-Mar-05 14:20 
GeneralMore on MacMahon Pin
Peter Hancock14-Mar-05 16:44
Peter Hancock14-Mar-05 16:44 
GeneralRe: More on MacMahon Pin
Pascal Ganaye14-Mar-05 21:48
Pascal Ganaye14-Mar-05 21:48 
QuestionSeriously - are you mental ? Pin
Christian Graus14-Mar-05 14:07
protectorChristian Graus14-Mar-05 14:07 
AnswerRe: Seriously - are you mental ? Pin
Pascal Ganaye14-Mar-05 14:15
Pascal Ganaye14-Mar-05 14:15 
GeneralRe: Seriously - are you mental ? Pin
Christian Graus14-Mar-05 16:20
protectorChristian Graus14-Mar-05 16:20 
GeneralRe: Seriously - are you mental ? Pin
mav.northwind14-Mar-05 21:15
mav.northwind14-Mar-05 21:15 
GeneralRe: Seriously - are you mental ? Pin
Pascal Ganaye15-Mar-05 2:23
Pascal Ganaye15-Mar-05 2:23 
GeneralRe: Seriously - are you mental ? Pin
mav.northwind15-Mar-05 2:41
mav.northwind15-Mar-05 2:41 
GeneralRe: Seriously - are you mental ? Pin
Christian Graus15-Mar-05 14:30
protectorChristian Graus15-Mar-05 14:30 
GeneralRe: Seriously - are you mental ? Pin
Huisheng Chen16-Mar-05 15:48
Huisheng Chen16-Mar-05 15:48 
GeneralRe: Seriously - are you mental ? Pin
Christian Graus17-Mar-05 11:20
protectorChristian Graus17-Mar-05 11:20 
GeneralRe: Seriously - are you mental ? Pin
Pascal Ganaye17-Mar-05 3:33
Pascal Ganaye17-Mar-05 3:33 
AnswerRe: Seriously - are you mental ? Pin
DavidNohejl31-Mar-05 11:44
DavidNohejl31-Mar-05 11:44 
GeneralThis won't test which language is faster Pin
Marc Clifton14-Mar-05 13:44
mvaMarc Clifton14-Mar-05 13:44 
GeneralRe: This won't test which language is faster Pin
Pascal Ganaye14-Mar-05 14:14
Pascal Ganaye14-Mar-05 14:14 

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