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I know this is going to inconvenience new users, but maybe they should be required to respond to an email that redirects them to a CP webpage on in order to post messages. This could be either time-based or reputation points based (or both).
Yeah, it sucks that you have to consider this, but the current state of affairs is becoming unbearable. You can also filter the URLs posted in the new user's messages, and if a spam url is discovered, the user's account is automatically deleted.
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I more step when there are already a number of hoops to go through?
Wrong approach.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Like I said, I recognize that it's an inconvenience for new users, but the steps that have already been taken are proving to be largely ineffectual.
Since there's no way you can block a given IP, and you've done everything you can regarding new-user signup, it looks to me like you have to take the next logical step. I would start with filtering out ALL HTML, AND auto-banning any new user that includes certain words/phrases in an email.
I'm only saying this because the spammers are STILL getting past the registration requirements.
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: and you've done everything you can regarding new-user signup
Actually, I haven't. what I've been doing is manually running search-and-destroy code to test it and make sure it's not going to cause false-positives. It's at the point where I'm confident it will, at the worst, not cause other's problems so I'll make that live today.
Slow and steady. No need to come out with guns blazing from the get-go.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: No need to come out with guns blazing from the get-go.
That's not the JSOP way.
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Chris Maunder wrote: No need to come out with guns blazing from the get-go.
Who me?
Actually, there *is* a need... 
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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<glances down at your sig. Glances back up. Rolls eyes slightly.>
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I can definitely take care of the problem for you. The end justifies the means.
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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There are at least 200 new spammer accounts that were registered *today* (with the word cialis and/or viagra in them)
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
modified on Friday, April 30, 2010 6:10 AM
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Some of the techniques mentioned are already in place, and some would make using the site extremely painful if you were, say, behind a firewall. CAPTCHA, while effective against automated attacks, is useless against manual spam. And it's very, very cheap to have spam posted manually.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I tried to reply to Abhinev's answer to todays CCC and was informed that the message was already posted.
Er... No It Wasn't!
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Odd, It took a reply afterwards, but only when I reworded it.
Strange goings on.
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Go and buy a lottery ticket. You may have just had a CRC collision.
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Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
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[AGOG] Really?
"But Professor, the odds against that must be phenomenal!"
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Well, if the options are a bug vs. a one in 4 billion random event then clearly has to be a CRC collision, right?
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I am off to buy that lottery ticket in a clear case of Occam's Strop!
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If there are 4 billion possible hashes, then there is a 1 in 4,000 chance of posting a duplicate hash (given the 1 million messages already in the Lounge, assuming these hashes are forum specific). Perhaps more likely than you think. Maybe you should point the hash to the original message (so, once you find a collision, you can confirm it by comparing the actual messages).
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what algorithm you are using, I would prefer this[^]
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%^]*IRXD#@GKCQ`R\^SF_WcHbORY87֦ʻ6ϣN8ȤBcRAV\Z^&SU~%CSWQ@#2
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128 bit encrypted signature, crack if you can
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A recently posted thread in The Lounge[^] made me think about one of the main problems we non-native-English-speakers face daily: since English is the primary language on which every tech is developed, almost every documentation is in such language. It usually takes time to find docs in our own language, spanning even years, and more often than not it's not as accurate as the original (I for once prefer reading the MSDN docs in English rather than my native Spanish, for such reason, but then again I've been studying English since I can remember and not too many people have had the same chances I had).
Since The Code Project is full of international members, I think it would be nice to have the possibility of localizing an article. Say, I publish an article in English and I could also provide a Spanish translation for it. Then a reader can choose to watch the article in either language (perhaps a little flag at the top or something). Furthermore, perhaps someone could contribute with a German translation, making it available in yet another language.
I'm aware that such a thing would imply a great effort. But I think that there are many gains, since it would make Code Project available to a bigger audience, and thus opening the doors to many other markets.
I know that you guys have been busy with the latest improvements on the site. But maybe in some time when you're asking yourselves: what could we include for our next milestone, this might be an interesting option to consider.
Just a thought.
Best regards.
modified on Friday, April 30, 2010 1:29 AM
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I like it, as long as the 'main' version of the article is in English (or there is at lease a English translation present)
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Maybe the article submission wizard can be modified to allow posting of alternative language versions of an article ONLY if the article has already been posted and approved in English.
The problem I foresee is that the article text could change dramatically between the English and non-Enlish version, and people could take advantage of the fact that not so many people will speak their language.
In the end, I think we should maintain our current English-only status.
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We may actually be able to do that quite easily, actually.
We've been thinking about this a lot over the years and it has it's pros and cons (as John has pointed out, so it'll need some thinking (and, obviously, time  )
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Is it possible to block the messages which contain alexcastelli.com? All the spam messages that are posted, link to that website.
You could probably have a list of spam websites and not allow any message to be posted when it contains any of those links. The list could also be auto updated by regular members who report messages as spam or some kind of mechanism.
modified on Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:32 PM
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 Good idea!
Wikipedia does the same thing: a blacklist with URLs from unwanted hosts, see Wikipedia:Spam_blacklist[^]. Spammers want to push their websites and when all of them are black listed they probably lose their interest.
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