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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I know you guys just lounge around a lot because you can't think of anything to do on the site, so...
The hamsters will be burning you in effigy tonight! 
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Would it be feasible to try a silverlight experiment on CP? The reputation graph would be a great place to start.
I envision the existing line graph with a timeline graph underneath it, and the ability to hover over a point in the graph that shows the value of the currently hovered point.
Something with a bit more interactivity than a standard png file.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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We originally tried something analogous to that using Flash but our results were awful because of the component we were using. We put the project on hold, but if you're bored, and enjoy silverlight... 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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If you provide the playground, I'll bring the football.
Email me and we'll talk.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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So you've gone from doing Silverblight beats being foreclosed to falling in love with it?
Who are you and what have you done with the real JSOP?
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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It's not that I love silverlight. I just think if I make a suggestion, and the site admin offers to let me take a stab at it, it would be beyond hypocritical to turn down the offer if I thought I had the skills to put my money where my mouth is.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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didn't your buddy Steve tell you Flash is bad?
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.
I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
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You guys should have a look at this guys profile: apple h[^]
He is posting sort of fake questions in Q&A section... Joined couple of days back and posting absurd!
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He's been escorted off the premises.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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As per the FAQ for reputation points:
The more a member's reputation increases within a given category, the more their votes count towards other members when voting on items within that reputation category.
For example, a member with a high Authority ranking (someone who answers a lot of questions) but a low Author ranking (they don't post many articles) will have their vote counted strongly when voting on answers, but not so strongly when voting on articles
Now, i assume that the ranking is Bronze-Silver-Gold-Platinum...
Based on this, if one Platinum debator votes 5 for a posted message and other platinum debator votes 1 for the same posted message, then overall votes status should be 3/5 (2 votes), right?
From last few days, i had observed that when i try to upvote 1/5 (1 vote) status message, it squares up to 1.44/5 (2 votes)
Considering my debator reputation (i.e. Platinum), won't my vote should have made it 3/5?
It looks like my platinum reputation is not powerful enough!
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I think they may be doing it by reputation *points* rather than just a simple "level" (like platinum).
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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Lets say if that's the case. Debator points are considered while giving a weightage... I have around 4400 debator points and the ratio is 8(1/5 -> 1.44/5), the other person should have around 4400*8 = 35200 debator poitns.
Now, picking particular incident, i found that in ASP.NET forum this happened with me for a message (not an answer). Not too many big shots (whose debator points are around 32K or more) visit there... and i have a wild guess of who the other member was based on the message conversation ... i dont find *debators total points* come into play.
Further, the ratio is constant from couple of weeks or so, inspite of more points gained. It doesn't look like points ratio (which can be any real number)... it looks like an exact integer in play.
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maybe it's not the platinum or gold status but the actual points that count
and if the 1 vote was from someone like JOSP or CG or DD you lose big time 
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IMO which reputation component is used is not always obvious.
To turn one vote of 1 into an average of 1.44, the original must have been 8 times stronger than the second,
as (1*8 + 5*1)/(8 + 1)=13/9=1.44
So it was a platinum one and a white/bronze five that got combined.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.
I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
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Very good
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thats was what i tried to convey... since i was a Platinum in Debator... why my vote was considered as a White/Bronze when i tried to upvote a general forum message that had 1/5 (1 vote)?
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Luc Pattyn wrote: So it was a platinum one and a white/bronze five that got combined.
But that was my whole point... i have a Platinum status in Debator. But the calculations says my vote was considered as White/Bronze... why?
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If you send me a link to the item in question I can review the votes.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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For example take this: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3478452/Re-accessing-textbox-which-is-inside-ascx-file.aspx[^]
If needed more, there are few more related to the same question... I don't remember any other thread for now... but i can test it(and provide data to you!) anytime if you need more!
It keep's happening with me all the time at Lounge too...
if i downvote 5/5 (1 vote) -> 4.56/5 (2 vote)...
if i upvote 1/1 (1 vote) -> 1.44/5 (2 votes)... and all after i too hold a platinum status!
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Were you able to have a look at it?
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I haven't been able to yet. It's on my list though.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Few days back, when there was a re-calculation of reputation points, lots of people(me too!) found that organiser points took a good dip!... Chris concluded, might be Reported articles/messages might be the reason.
It looks like missing Reported articles/message is not the only reason. I found, whenever a message (that adds a point in Debator category) gets voted up, 1 organiser point is awarded to the poster.
So overall, in case of Up-vote +5*weightage added in debator points & +1 added in Organiser points for the OP who posted the message.
As per FAQ, i don't find this mentioned. Why does a Poster gets 1 point of organising category when he did not do anything related to it?
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That was a little convoluted. Can I assume that you are asking:
"Does a member who posts a message get Organiser points if someone votes on their message?"
If so, the answer is "No, they don't", and "I'll check to make sure they don't".
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: "Does a member who posts a message get Organiser points if someone votes on their message?"
Yes!
I post a message, you upvote me... i get upvoted points in debator category + 1 point in my organiser category.
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Chris, it seems a lot of the people who care, are reading but not understanding the table; basically because:
1. it sometimes is overly verbose;
2. on occasion it seems really wrong;
3. and you are not doing what it says (You're doing much better, but not clearly saying so). I'd suggest you explicitly show the weight effect.
So rather than
1. The author of an answer receives points due to their answer being up-voted by another member (under Quick Answers). --> 5
2. A member receives points for answering another member's question (under Quick Answers). --> 10
3. A member down-votes a message in a general discussion forum. --> -2
WTF? who is loosing points here?
I'd say (always referring to the recipient as "A"):
1. an answer by A gets up-voted by B (under Quick Answers). --> 5 * authority(B)
2. Member A posts answer to B's question (under Quick Answers). --> 10 * 1
3. Message by A gets down-voted by B (in general discussion forum) --> -2 * 1
where authority(X), author(X), debator(X), ... are similar weight functions that map a particular
reputation component's color of member X to a weight factor (white/bronze=1, silver=2, gold=4, platinum=8).
And * 1 indicates no weight applies.
FWIW: if you're interested and provide source code, I'd be willing to give it a go.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.
I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
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