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Not necesarrily...[^]
Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers
--- Serious Sam
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Erudite_Eric wrote: Does anyone think that today, such a product would be allowed
You mean like cannabis?
Veni, vidi, abiit domum
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Canabis isnt aqddictive, and it doesnt cause cancer etc. (it has other issues, which are potentially quite nasty and not a drug I would recomend to anyone)
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Erudite_Eric wrote: Canabis isnt aqddictive, and it doesnt cause cancer etc.
I attended a meeting a few years ago on drug mis-use, and we were told that it did have both those, and other effects, according to a 12 year study.
Veni, vidi, abiit domum
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Well, only if it is smoked with tobacco, which it often is. If ingested it of coiurse has no effect on the lungs.
Whats more disturbing is its mental health effect.
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Alcohol and nicotine are a lot more dangerous and addictive than pot. I've done a 45 year study and I can tell you they are full of caca.
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A true legend of R&R. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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for Phil
Well, I love Don and Phil's music; it's timeless, even if I have mixed feelings about those halcyon days in the late 1950's when I was wobbling towards young adulthood (high-school class of 1961).
Their hit in 1956, "All I have to do is Dream," struck a chord with me, since, at age thirteen, I was having dreams about the unattainable mysteries that lurked behind the ... uhhh ... outer surfaces of all the blossoming belles, and given the steel-reinforced industrial-grade latex ... uhhh ... undergarments worn by my circle-pin-wearing, bobby-soxed, Little Suzies (who were so damned awake to the dangerous urges of young men)of those bygone days: dreams were about all a geekish boy could hope to have 
To me Don and Phil (and the early Elvis, and Buddy Holly) typify a certain openness and sweetness, a tenderness even, existing in a paradoxical tension with a certain type of machismo, of white males baby-boom-born in the American deep south.
I find that quality, whatever it is, wonderfully reincarnated in Chris Isaak. Wish I could have seen Chris' performance with Phil at "The Music Box Theatre" on Sept. 7, 2011, in Hollywood, Calif: [^].
Another one hits the dust.
“There are obvious things, and there are many obvious things no one tried, because no one needed to try them.” Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, January 1, 2014
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BillWoodruff wrote: high-school class of 1961
Me too, although Grammar school, and I share your sentiments (and memories) about the time, the music, and the girls.
Veni, vidi, abiit domum
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Indeed - they were at their peak a little before my time, but they are still the "tracks of my years" through my childhood and early adolescence. Beautiful voices in close harmony, and good lyrics too.
Not something we get these days... 
Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers
--- Serious Sam
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They were the best.
Dave, high school class of 1957.
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My wife is in New Zealand, so just in case she manages to escape with her life, I am furiously cleaning the house, top to bottom. I'm also finishing my latest SQL article ( and considering what the next one will be ) and planning on working on HTML5 stuff tomorrow.
What's everyone else doing ?
Christian Graus
My new article series is all about SQL !!!
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Just finished watching the 1929 version of Taming of the Shrew with Douglas Fairbanks and Mary Pickford, terrific movie and now going to bed because in the morning my son and I are going to pick up a machine to blow insulation into the attic. 60 bales, should be quite an adventure and a hell of a lot warmer as there's little to no insulation up there now and the house is always cold. (Winter here)
Then I'm going to finish a little more firmware for my autonomous rover and start the 2 of n article.
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I have done the cellulose insulation job a couple of times for myself and friends and have a few tips.
1. Make the store plug the machine in and test it before you drag it home. Those things get abused and either the blower or auger may be faulty.
2. Make sure you use some type of breathing protection. The paper masks are better than nothing, but I prefer a half-face respirator. This is most important for the guy on the hose end.
3. Set up a fan to flush the air out of the room (probably the garage) where you have placed the auger-box and accessed the attic. This really helps with the fine dust that is inevitable.
4. If you are feeding a long distance or will be making some tight bends with the hose, you may clog the hose. A 25-50 ft electrical fish tape reel works well to feed through the hose and clear the clog. A yard/leaf blower also helps with this.
5. Clean-up. Sweeping this stuff is a pain. Get the big piles out of the way, open the doors and use a blower to send it to the neighbors. 
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Thanks for the tips, I've never done the blown insulation but a lot of the Batt type and know that breathing apparatus is essential and by it's nature that the cellulose will be a mess.
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You are welcome.
I forgot the most important tip, do not let that stuff get damp as it will clog the auger or hose. This may seem obvious, but it is easy for some to get damp due to condensation. You buy it from nice warm store, bring it home and set it on a cold concrete floor. The bottom of the bag cools down to the dew point and you get clumpy material. Same goes but if the person feeding the box is cleaning up spills on the floor.
The nice thing about cellulose versus fiber glass is that while messy, it does not come with the itch factor. 
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TnTinMn wrote: do not let that stuff get damp
I hadn't really thought about that but when they delivered it yesterday they unloaded it onto the front porch which is concrete and we brought it in the house and put in a spare bedroom.
Thanks again!
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Do not blow the insulation onto/into the external soffit vents and clog them. You can buy plastic chutes or just bend pieces of cardboard to create air channels to let air come into the vents and into the main attic space.
I did mine years ago and have never had an ice damn since.
I have snow on my roof longer than anyone else in the neighborhood (which means I have the best insulation).
Steve Wellens
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Just got done doing the insulation.
We got the machine set up on the back porch hauled about 30 bails out and it started to rain. So we hauled all the bales just inside the door covered the machine and waited about 30 minutes until it quit. We uncovered the machine and I wiped off best I could and put a fan on it for about 30 minutes.
Fearing the worst we started and didn't have a bit of trouble except for a big freakin mess which is cleaned up and we are taking the machine back now.
Thanks for the tips!
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Good job!
It sounds like your attic access was from inside the house (ouch, that is rough). If you dealt with rain and did not get a clogged hose during the process, you have done very well.
This is probably not an issue for you, but when you were in the attic, did check to see if there where any improperly ducted bathroom exhaust fans(i.e. just venting directly into the attic space)? If there were any, put that onto your list of things to fix soon, before it causes a water problem with the attic space now being cooler.
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TnTinMn wrote: This is probably not an issue for you, but when you were in the attic, did check to see if there where any improperly ducted bathroom exhaust fans(i.e. just venting directly into the attic space)? If there were any, put that onto your list of things to fix soon, before it causes a water problem with the attic space now being cooler.
There was an old fart fan in the guest bathroom venting to the attic that I replaced and vented to the soffett earlier in the week.
The only thing I have left to do is the wiring up there, it is rigged very poorly but it's right next to the access so I will do it at a later time.
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I am watching (on tv) Australia bat with the Poms just avoiding the follow on.
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
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Trying to work out if I'll ever feel my fingers again after shovelling snow. It's been...chilly.
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You're not stuck in Toronto, are you ? It's very warm, even in Tassie. A trifle windy, though....
Christian Graus
My new article series is all about SQL !!!
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If he was in Oz, wouldn't it be rather odd for him to be shoveling snow?
Software Zen: delete this;
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