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CBadger wrote: Beta is Latin
Veni, vidi, vici.
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CBadger wrote: A good programmer is someone who always looks both ways before crossing a one-way street. - (Doug Linder)
Being a paranoid motorcyclist, I now look both ways twice all the time.
Marvin is my hero
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And that's not enough 
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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The Netherlands took the top spot because it has comparatively low food prices, low diabetes levels and better nutritional diversity than its European rivals[^]
Is this the same Holland I know?
The food pricess are low because the food is cheap. Period. And the only reasn they have low diabetes and heart attack incidence, despite the beer they drink, fat they eat, and fags they smoke, is because they cycle everywhere, from a young age, all year. Even in winter.
try doing 5 miles to work in the morning on a bike in - 10 C. Every morning, al winter. I know, I have done it. A mate in Maastrict described a cycle to work, of many miles, in - 22C one year.
Seriously, the Dutch are nuts about cyclcing. I have seen more kids on one bike than I have in most cars: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dutch+family+bike&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=hRPZUoXrCozfqAHQ04Eg&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1525&bih=633[^] 
Oh, and please note, the most 'unsustainable' countries have the best scores. Says something about so called 'sustainable' 'back to nature' farming doesn't it.
modified 17-Jan-14 9:16am.
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try cycling my route to work its probably 5 miles virtically if you add the hills together, when yo live in a country where anything over a foot high is classed as a mountain it does make it easier to cycle
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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For sure, cycling in Holland and Belgium is quicker than driving, it is so flat. And you can park anywhere.
Anyway, I bet you can also eat what you like and don't get fat.
When I was doing it, 10 miles a day, 40 minutes, every day, I cold eat what I liked, drink what I liked, and never put on weight or suffered hangovers.
Its great cycling to work, free exercise I call it. 
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As their neighbour I can tell you, they're not more healthy than the next one. Only more annoying. 
(sorry, couldn't resist)
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I have been tempted to cycle to work (as I used to a very. very long time ago) but was put off by the fact that the walk to the shower from the office afterwards is longer than the original walk from the lounge to the office...
That and it'd take longer to fit the bicycle clips than to walk it!
Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers
--- Serious Sam
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Amsterdam in the rush hour is like the Tour de France - just loads of people on drugs cycling around. 
speramus in juniperus
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never saw a fat person in the Netherlands, or France for that matter; see lots of obese Americans though, just saying...
David
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I wish to coin a new word to mean the panic that gets developed when you come to know, through Google that an idea that you thought as unique, worked out for so long, exists already.
What's your suggestion?
1. itexistophobia
2. Googleophobia
3. patentedophobia
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#3 wouldn't be valid, as the idea might already exist in the public domain, but just has never been patented.
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Combination between Cainotophobia ,Centophobia and Kainophobia
Kacaincephobia maby? 
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Centophobia
Close to CentosPhobia. People'd think you don't like Linux.
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To know the true awesomeness of CodeProject, go ahead and google CentosPhobia. 
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but the meaning is exactly the opposite.
What I'm referring is about finding something *old*.
If it exists already, it existed already 
So wrong guess! Let's find a new word
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okay I typed it in a hurry. let me explain it again?
What I asked for was, "The fear of finding something existing". something existing means- it's old. It exists already.
But the phobias that you mentioned are all about trying something new that doesn't exist? Trying to change from existing ones. Did this confuse you more? hehe
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The face was for me putting the wrong phobias together
Lets try combining it with Cyberphobia (Centophobia)
So how about Cencyphobia 
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I would suggest from the Ancient Greek origins it would be something along the lines of KainoIdiologiProaGnosticoPhobia.
New Idea Previously Known o Phobia
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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A bit of I/O overload! may be i & O
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I think Apple already owns iPhobia...
Never moon a werewolf.
- Harvey
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somesmuggitgottherefirstophobia
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I have a phobia to spell long words.
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yeah - and #2 is for the worst case scenario where you only find out the idea already exists when you are trying to register the domain name....
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