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I learned a few programming skills on my own, not on the job, but through my own coding and analysis of source code samples, like .NET, C#, Java, etc. Is it OK to put "familiar with .NET, C#, Java" on my resume. Usually, "familiar with" means "comfortable with", even though some dictionaries suggest it means "to have a good knowledge of".
This issue refers to the section with general skills, the experience section would list the on-the-job skills.
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I can't imagine what goes on in recruiters/screeners' heads, but if I were interviewing you and saw the term "familiar with," that would "register" as an ambiguous term, and would make me immediately want to question you in in detail on what your "familiarity" was, exactly.
imho, "have specific experience with" is less ambiguous.
imho, it is always wiser to claim you know less, and demonstrate you know more, than to claim you know more and then be able to demonstrate less.
cheers, Bill
«To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"
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BillWoodruff wrote: it is always wiser to claim you know less, and demonstrate you know more, than
to claim you know more and then be able to demonstrate less.
that's almost a quote from a Bond Film isn't it - Im sure it was John Cleese playing the part, and a repartee between him and Bond was along the lines of 'being smarter than you look is better than looking smarter than you are' 
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CRobert456 wrote: some dictionaries suggest it means "to have a good knowledge of".
Nah, it means "I read about it in a blog a while back".
If you have experience with something, then say "experience".
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"Familiar with", typically means:
Capable of keying in, saving to a file, building and executing "Hello World", in the language mentioned.
modified 26-Apr-15 4:15am.
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If it's just a summary in the form of a list, I just tend to put it in a sentence with a lot of commas!
If it's more detailed I like to try to include the context - e.g.
I wrote a personal website using ASP.Net 4 using C# for the family photo album.
I wrote PooperPig (blah about that) in Objective C, and recently converted it to C++
I wrote DigiTVTimer (blah about that) in Delphi 5.0
If it is "I read a blog about it once" I don't mention it at all.
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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CRobert456 wrote: s it OK to put "familiar with .NET, C#, Java" on my resume.
No. Put a specific # of months/years of actual working with and indicate which language/framework versions. If you can, pick one or two language / framework features you have worked specifically with, for example, threading, Linq, async, etc.
Marc
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7.5 Magnitude Earthquake in Nepal[^]
I pray for the people who perished in this disaster as well as their friends and families. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Terrible.
Nature is all too powerful.
modified 26-Apr-15 4:14am.
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I'm surprised democrats haven't tried to legislate some of that power away from its rightful owner...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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A somewhat misplaced attempt at humour I feel.
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No, a misplaced attempt at humor would have been if I stated concern for the accessibility of Tier 1 technical support for various American companies that feel compelled to offshore that kind of job.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Nah. He can just say "Israel". That's way more awkward than Birmingham.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: He can just say "Israel". That's way more awkward than Birmingham.
Birmingham is a 'national disgrace' says Ofsted chief inspector[^]
Compared to Birmingham, Israel is an Earthly Paradise!
(Of course, that doesn't say much...)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Um, Ofsted is all about schools (OFfice of STandards in EDudation), not places.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The article notes that in Birmingham, children have starved to death (in a supposedly first-world country)! Do you really believe that the only thing wrong with Birmingham is its school system?
I freely admit that Israel has its social and other problems, but not on that level!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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I didn't read the article, because it's the opinion of one of the people in charge of Ofsted, which is well outside my range of interests.
I imagine that children suffered because of mistreatment, not because of whatever it is that you're implying.
Unfortunately, children are mistreated everywhere -- far worse in the Middle East than the UK.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I think my is a Soapbox material...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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A fluorescent tube manufacturing line. A furnace at one end pouring out molten glass; 600 feet later, a tube of hot glass. We wrote the software to control the machinery on the finishing end of the line.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Loveland ski area in Colorado. Trying to get my then boss's wireless lift ticket scanning system working up and down the mountain and in the base camp while early season skiers were using and abusing it.
Cold as $%^&!. LCD metering equipment would just fade to nothing in the -22 degree working environments in the morning.
I was hustled up and down the mountain as needed on snow machines.
SSSSSSucked.
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In my dream was the most awkward place. I woke up, wrote the code and it - to my surprise - really worked. 
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[edit] I'm taking "awkward" to mean uncomfortable, out of the ordinary, or just weird. [/edit]
A couple interesting places.
At a test range in Utah, outdoors with several cameras all watching a missile test from different angles. The video was recorded onto VCR, frame grabbed, then we manually marked the tip of the nosecone in each image, then the software gave (very imprecise) info as to velocity, acceleration, position, etc. Cold, windy, stupid. In a related "demo" of the system, China Lake CA. That was fun, got to see this airplane (can't remember the name of it now) with a huge wingspan that was going to circumnavigate the world, and got to bounce up and down on the wing of a 727 (while it was on the ground).
Another interesting place -- Slidell Louisiana (or thereabouts) at a test facility for shuttle engines. A 104% power burn for 11 minutes with a camera pointing at the exhaust to detect hydrogen fires. In a related test, somewhere out in the middle of the mountains north of Santa Cruz CA, there's a NASA test facility. This one was for a 1/4 scale shuttle motor, where they were testing for hydrogen fires during an emergency shutdown. Took forever to find the place. It was the damnedest thing -- they had all these hydrogen sensors near the engine (so as not to get incinerated) and the video showed this massive hydrogen fire that snaked all around the hydrogen sensors but never actually touched one.
Anyways, this was all done years ago, lugging Compaq "portable" computers around.
But by far, the worst place was in a 120F degree freight car in San Bernardino CA. The freight car was one car out of several that housed the personnel and equipment for the now (thankfully) defunct MX Missile train.
Marc
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