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Please remove any Dutch entries in your log that make no sense 
..and no, wasn't me. Not that.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Which one is it, Ronnie or Reggie?
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Which is another spelling but funny anyway. Where I am crays are lobsters.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Here too, but there is a difference between a cray fish and a Cray with a knife at your throat! 
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I had assumed Robert Cray.
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Suddenly I'm feeling the urge to play around with my user agent string...
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<OldWarStory>
A long time ago, on an Air Force base not too far away... I was the system manager on a several VAXen. Outside the classified vault in the computer center, they were installing a Cray Y-MP.
I made the observation that they needed to find a virgin operator(*) to sacrifice on it before powering it up for the first time.
</OldWarStory>
(*) It was a well-known fact that the night-time operator staff had regularly-scheduled orgies while waiting for processing runs.
Software Zen: delete this;
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So I work for company A (they pay my salary), but they put me to work at company B (they pay company A).
So while I'm officially employed by company A I don't really know the people there and I spent most of my time at B building their product.
Until company B decides they don't need me anymore and I'm out (company A can't easily do that because we have laws that protect employees and such).
Once company B decides I have to go (or when I decide I don't want to work for company B anymore), company A will find a new company for me to work at.
This is actually pretty common practice in the Netherlands.
In Dutch we say that company A does "detachering" and I'm "gedetacheerd" at company B.
But what is this called in English?
Google is of little help, apparently I'm "detached" (maybe from reality, but not from my job!) 
For "detachering" I find something like "secondment", but that doesn't sound well.
Am I "seconded" at company B? Does company A do "secondment"?
Is "detachering" not something other countries do (often)?
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The correct term is "confused".
We also refer to the practice as "outsourcing", and one doing it across borders is an expat. You're doing contract-work, if I'm not mistaken?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Outsourcing is the term I was looking for! 
I'm not doing contract work, I'm employed and outsourced.
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So your employer is pimping you out, basically? 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Don't hate da playa... hate the game. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Outsourcing?
In order to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion.
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Yep, like Eddy says
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I'm landlorded to company B?
That sounds very weird... 
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Maybe it Sound weird, but Looks like it is the fact 
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Except I don't have land or a building I'm renting out.
Does "landlord" have some other obscure meaning I'm not aware of?
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In Business yes. And it (landlord) is not generally bad.
I'm exactly employed in that way, let me try to explain:
I was originally employed by B, became part of a bigger Organisation where A is also a member.
Do to some restructions and optimizations (financial, organisation and much more locations) the Team "B" was moved (organizational whise) to A... but our main Job is to work for B.
So I'm employed finally from "landlord" A, which in my case was a very big Advantage, because A is financially very strong (at present B became also strong, so that is not longer a point) but working for B.
Sorry for my bad English. I hope you get an idea what I try to say. If not it is also not a big Thing in history
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JustWatchLittle wrote: Sorry for my bad English. I hope you get an idea what I try to say. If not it is also not a big Thing in history
Unfortunately I think it's your limited English speaking, and while whatever term you use in your native language encompasses landlord in English it has additional meanings that map to different English terms.
Your usage isn't American English; I've never seen it used as British English, and checking a few online dictionaries fails to find any mention of that usage that I might've overlooked or disregarded over the years.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Leasing. 
At least that's what one company I worked for called it -- I was leased to the company that needed the work done.
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That sounds good too, but I was looking for "outsourcing".
We use the term "lease" for cars mostly.
I've got a leasecar myself
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You're a contractor... not an independent contractor but just a regular contractor that goes through another agency. From the real employer's perspective (ie, the company with the money like company B), they do this when they want a temporary employee or want to try out an employee before bringing them on full-time. This happens a lot in tech actually.
Contracts can be indefinite, contract-to-hire, or for a fixed amount of time. The real employer benefits by less red tape and regulations from dealing with the employee. They don't pay extra in tax, UI insurance, etc. The good news is, that extra money is typically passed on to company A and if you negotiate right then you. The bad news is you're easier to get rid of than a normal employee.
Welcome to life. 
Jeremy Falcon
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