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I like 15 inch because 17 won't fit in a backpack very easily.
Real programmers use butterflies
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charlieg wrote: omg, the new version is gorgeous!
"OMG that [hammer|power drill|chainsaw|laptop] is gorgeous!"
Meh. A laptop is tool, not a fashion accessory. But then, I do realize there's apparently a market for those people, and companies catering to them are doing rather well.
Or were you drooling over the specs, like any good self-respecting geek should? 
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high end AMD or Intel processor, starts at 32GB RAM, NVME ssd, 4k 17" 144hz display.... yeah, the specs are nice. What got my attention was the NVidia GPU option and the resolution of the screen... it's a tool, but I was more curious about opinions of the screen size.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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That is nice.
While (IMO) bigger is better, no doubt you'll still have to rescale everything, 'cuz with 4K across 17", nothing's gonna be readable at native resolution.
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Interestingly, my display, me and my optometrist are having an argument. I'm nearsighted - not badly so - but... I'm in the process of transitioning to progressives... it's ugly.
I've seen people walk up to my laptop and say "how can you see that?". For me, I need crisp text and width of source code. Currently, the laptop I has is 1920x1080 which is okay, but the external screen is 2560x1440. And is amazing at 25" not too big as compared to a 27"...
A 17" is larger than my 15.6 but what kills me is when some laptop maker gives you a 17" at 1024x768. I'll pay for the ultra high resolution and scale up the font size.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I prefer a lighter laptop for travel, so I have one with a 14" screen.
At home and at work, I connect it to multiple screens, so the laptop size is irrelevant. If you travel a lot and work on the plane, you may wish to consider a 14" laptop; anything larger doesn't fit onto the @#$% tables they provide in economy.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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truth. In my case, I rarely travel, thank you Jesus...
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I read PDF's "2 pages up" ... seems 17.3 would be better (?) if you're into that.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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I have a 17. Because it's a laptop, and when I do dev on it, I don't want to get a headache trying to focus on what looks like 8pt text.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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native resolution on that screen?
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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It's a Dell, and it's 1920x1080, which is more than good enough for even my old eyes
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Because mine is minimally portable (pre-covid: daily from work to home, and once or twice a week to conference rooms) I'd probably go with the 17 because I'll be using the laptop screen in addition to my external displays; and bigger is better there. If I had to fly for work occasionally 15 for sure, and I'd be seriously looking at if I could find a 13" model with a 45W CPU and enough cooling not to throttle it under extended load.
Unless you work from home and never travel, your work environment is entirely remote VMs and cloud native apps reducing your computer to a dumb terminal, or have lengthy build times (10 vs 30s isn't worth the pain, 5 vs 15m would be) I'd recommend against a desktop as a primary machine because of the overhead in keeping two environments running and problems with not having all files synced between them.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Tweaking the informal survey a bit. For anyone who cares or has excess giggles and grins... this is in regards to a "development" laptop - something with enough screen real-estate to allow you to code.
Screen size and resolution? 15.6" and up.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Chrome zero-day browser bug found – patch now! – Naked Security[^]
"Exploit exists in the wild" means that the bad guys are using it.
So check and update - if you are using a version lower than 88.0.4324.150 (and I was) you should update.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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thanks Griff
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Quote: If you are using Chrome, you should check for updates.
Option 2: change browser to FireFox
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Thanks OG, now I am on version 88.0.4324.150 on all my machines.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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as soon as I read this, I went to chrome -> help -> about and I can see it was in the middle of updating.
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Slacker007 wrote: I went to chrome -> help -> about and I can see it was in the middle of updating.
Actually, clicking help about actually kicks off the update process. It's terrible.
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I clicked the green "update" badge at the top right of my Chrome browser. It closed the browser, then 5 seconds later reopened the pages I was on.
Done.
I wish more updates worked this well.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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20212 wrote: Actually, clicking help about actually kicks off the update process. It's terrible.
I'm curious, and will ask the obvious question: Why is it 'terrible'?
The only circumstance I can think of where an automatic update would be undesirable would be if you are debugging a web app that has a bug that is version-specific. If that were that case, you'd already have automatic updates disabled or otherwise circumvented.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote: The only circumstance I can think of where an automatic update would be undesirable would be if you are debugging a web app that has a bug that is version-specific.
Unless it's Microsoft and then everyone complains about the automatic updates.
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Personally, I've only had one Microsoft Update cause a problem, and that was alleviated by updating the antivirus package I was using at the time.
Professionally we have Microsoft Updates disabled on the industrial PC's we sell as part of our equipment. This is due to legal terminology in the warranty our customers receive on the equipment. They are free to turn updates back on, and most do, but that triggers a clause in the warranty that holds us blameless in the event of Windows-related issues.
My only gripe with Microsoft Updates at work is that corporate IT has to fondle every update as it goes past and get it all sticky with bodily fluids before it gets to our machines. 
Software Zen: delete this;
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So a friend of mine made fun of me for using "Edge"..
I don't fear the bad guys, even in the valley of Death; for I am the worst in that valley.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Edge is based on Chrome. Check for an update! I use Vivaldi, which is also based on Chrome. It had an update that Griff's post pointed out. It brought it up to the Chrome engine he specified.
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