|
Member 12924312 wrote: Worked for decades on an AIDS vaccine, which has not yet arrived, but will soon
So, immunology expert, tell me how easy it is to come up with a vaccine that attacks the very mechanism that a vaccine needs to work to defeat HIV.
He's not the only one that is working on this. There's tens of thousands of people working that problem, but yeah, put it all on just him.
"As a physician with the National Institutes of Health (NIH), Fauci has served the American public health sector in various capacities for more than 50 years, and has acted as an advisor to every U.S. president since Ronald Reagan.[1] He became director of the NIAID in 1984 and has made contributions to HIV/AIDS research and other immunodeficiency diseases, both as a research scientist and as the head of the NIAID.[2] From 1983 to 2002, Fauci was one of the world's most frequently-cited scientists across all scientific journals.[2] In 2008, President George W. Bush awarded Fauci the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award in the United States, for his work on the AIDS relief program PEPFAR.[3]"
Name the only president in the last 50 years to sh*t on Fauci and his reputation.
As for net worth, who gives a sh*t? You think his only source of income is a government job? You mean you don't have multiple sources of income? I do.
How much money are you going to be sitting on at 80 years old?
|
|
|
|
|
I don't understand why it needs explaining either, Dave. Thanks for making the points. I'm a "right-winger" but not a zealot, BTW.
It is an irony to me that the gov't is asking the citizens to do something to help the common good and yet many who scream loudly that they are "patriots" are the ones refusing to heed the call to action and hide behind poor logic and conspiracy. What are they really afraid of, needles?
|
|
|
|
|
Thank you. In my experience, you are one of the rare ones on the right.
|
|
|
|
|
He is a government worker turned celebrity, protecting the interests of big Pharma.
HCQ treatment was very effective in the third world countries where it was widely used. Many scientific papers were available and the results were amazing.
It didn't see the light of day in the US, because who would want a cheap and effective remedy that was available right then and there? All of them were working to suppress news about HCQ, and the usefull idiots chanted right along.
Lot of people died because of it.
That is on Fauci, and his fellow travelers.
|
|
|
|
|
Member 12924312 wrote: HCQ treatment was very effective in the third world countries where it was widely used. Many scientific papers were available and the results were amazing.
That is not true at all. SOME studies showed SOME effectiveness, not could not be reliably duplicated. The only point where HCQ was shown to have an impact was in outpatient settings with early detection of COVID.
Member 12924312 wrote: Lot of people died because of it.
And a lot of people died using it. If you were bad enough to be in the hospital with COVID, it did little to nothing at all.
On top of that, treating everyone for COVID with HCQ would have exhausted the world supply of it, putting far more patients WITHOUT COVID in much greater danger, like people with lupus, RA, malaria, and more. There are plenty of patients like these that have to take it every day or suffer things like permanent organ damage.
There's far more to it than your conspiracy theory bullshit will allow for. I suggest you drop that crap, because it makes you look like a whining child who cannot see the world beyond your conspiracies.
|
|
|
|
|
It was a political effort in the US to suppress the news surrounding HCQ treatment protocol. The effectiveness of early stage treatment was pretty good.
The usefull idiots were primed to chant "but it is not tested on Covid", and they did. A study was done here in the US strangely mostly on patients who were late stage. The study got a lot of news in the media, but the context of what patients had been treated was not headlined. The general public knew nothing more.
Some doctors in the US had treated over 600 patients with none dying. They tried to get the news out, and were largely ignored, except for efforts to pressure their employers to fire them.
Here is the thing, there was nothing in the hands of doctors except ventillators (well so they said at least). But there was a 40 year history of HCQ use all over the world. The stuff is dirt cheap. Ivermectin another component in the treatment protocol also dirt cheap, it would have been easy to divert production for human applications as it is used as a dewormer in animals (no subscription).
And the beauty of it is, the everyone can make it, and it was mostly produced in 3rd world countries. It would have been easy to ramp up production in weeks, maybe months. But that didn't happen.
It was made unavailable by all means necessary. It it still isn't today, not in the US at least.
People died because of politics.
|
|
|
|
|
The scientific community disagrees with you.
The published papers on the topic disagree with you.
The metadata analysis' of the papers disagrees with you.
The GLOBAL scientific community has nothing to do with U.S. politics, nor is it subjugated by U.S. politics, or anyone's politics for that matter.
Where your argument fails is if it's produced in 3rd world countries so easily, why not just ignore politics and start producing the stuff en masse and start distributing it to everyone who wants it?
Because the effectiveness is not there.
Go ahead and start producing it yourself. Lay out all that money to build up your production and inventory. When the world actually starts using your version and then fails to re-order because the results just are not there, what are you going to do with your equipment and all that inventory?
Oh, and Trump said he was taking HCQ, STILL GOT COVID, and was still hospitalized and treated for it, and then got vaccinated. How did he get COVID if HCQ was so effective? How did it spread into the Republican community so easily if they were all taking HCQ like they believed Trump did?
Effective? No.
|
|
|
|
|
To play the devils advocate - maybe they're not kitted out to handle the more potentially lethal side effects. If they have one of the severe but treatable reactions and someone dies who could have been saved with appropriate medical treatment, well I could understand someone wanting to avoid putting themselves in that situation.
Actually last time I cut myself while gardening I went to a GP to get a Tetanus shot, and the first GP I stopped in at didn't even do Tetanus vaccines because they weren't properly equipped to handle severe allergic reactions.
|
|
|
|
|
The handling requirements for some of the new vaccines could be contributory.
I received my shots at a large drug store chain. From the online signup, scheduling logistics, etc. I could see where a practice with a single or just a few physicians might not have the capacity to deliver the new vaccines in a timely fashion. Even good olde flu vaccines have just a few weeks of shelf life.
|
|
|
|
|
Wishing you both the best. We are still in hiding.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
|
|
|
|
|
OriginalGriff wrote: I not trying to get into the "it's a bad cold" / "it's a killer" or the "have the jab" / "the jab tracks you" debate, just thought I'd let you know the view from a year after catching it.
Thanks for the update.
You were a few months ahead of my mom; so no debate here. Just happy that you still posting 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
|
|
|
|
|
I'm glad to hear the both of you are recovering Griff. I knew it had become pretty awful for the two of you (I know, understatement of the decade). Take care.
Software Zen: delete this;
|
|
|
|
|
I hope it will only get better and better... Longer hair for you and easy breathe for her...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
|
|
|
|
|
Incredibly sorry to hear this. I missed the original post. I will add both of you in my prayers.
Get well.
|
|
|
|
|
Glad to know you're doing better. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
|
|
|
|
|
How to find signals for crypto trading?
modified 1-May-21 1:49am.
|
|
|
|
|
Why couldn't you just Google for "crypto trading signals"?
|
|
|
|
|
As the old saying goes, "stupid is, as stupid does".
|
|
|
|
|
Yep.
The best Crypto Trading Signal I know of is the one saying "don't buy it"...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
|
|
|
|
|
It's current value states otherwise 
Still, requires patience and a strong stomach. I know someone who bought @13k, sold at 11 and 9k. Now, it does what, 50k?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
|
|
|
|
|
If it's "current value" doesn't scare you out of buying an massively unstable "currency" then you are an inveterate gambler, rather than an investor - and the chances are you are going to lose a shedload of money!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
|
|
|
|
|
OriginalGriff wrote: If it's "current value" doesn't scare you
Not even a bit.
OriginalGriff wrote: an massively unstable "currency"
You may want to zoom those charts to show a few years, and you see a very stable trend.
OriginalGriff wrote: then you are an inveterate gambler, rather than an investor
..and I don't need to villify it like that. I don't gamble, and don't own BC. Also, currencies are usually not meant as an investment.
So, if I am neither of those, then what?
OriginalGriff wrote: and the chances are you are going to lose a shedload of money!
I never had a shedload of money to begin with 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
|
|
|
|
|
He could also do just as good by consulting a crystal ball.
|
|
|
|
|
Yes.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
|
|
|
|
|
Look behind you! Look behind you!
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
