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The reason why a start-up is more likely to be innovative and an established company isn't is that the small company is trying to find their customers so they are more willing to try new ideas to differentiate themselves from the established companies whereas established companies are trying to maintain and keep their existing customers who, generally, don't want to change either.
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I think the problem with start ups is that they often lack the domain knowledge to really inovate. While it is true that they can through up a lot of new ideas, the hit/miss ratio will be high and companies with deeper domain knowledge are better able to exploit new ideas.
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sellinger wrote: companies with deeper domain knowledge are better able to exploit new ideas.
Well isn't this a matter of exploiting existing ideas versus innovating/creating those ideas then?
I think large companies sit around and wait until a small company shows promise with what they are doing, then jump on it, too, often with more resources.
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Why?
Because they'll provide BACON to keep the code monkeys at work!
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Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Before going bust under crippling bacon bills.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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ChrisElston wrote: bacon bills
Now there is a concept: bacon money. Spend it before you either eat it or it goes off...
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But, but, but, buttie.
I'm sure the staff would all chip in, just to make sure the BACON, didn't run out.
ps. There are some mean spirited people here who may be of the t.o.f.u persuasion.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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In general it is small companies that allow you to be innovative, whether they are startups or not - simply because you can talk directly to the person who makes the decision and they understand what you are saying. The larger the company, the more layers of non-understanding you have to go through to get an idea started.
But innovation is not just about your output, to be truly innovative in terms of product needs a lot more than a good idea - it need a lot of money too. There are the costs of manufacture, marketing, advertising, sales - all of which are frequently tens or hundreds of times the development cost. This is where it takes a big company to back it and get it to the market.
I have seen quite a few good, innovative products that have got nowhere because the company concerned cannot afford to get it out there to teh attention of people. And quite a few that do very well, despite being completely useless. JML anyone?
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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OriginalGriff wrote: I have seen quite a few good, innovative products that have got nowhere because
the company concerned cannot afford to get it out there to teh attention of
people. And quite a few that do very well, despite being completely useless. JML
anyone?
The poll asks "Which type of organisation is the most innovative?" - of course small is better. If a product is created money is needed to go further - commercialisation. This can be IPO, Sell out, Partnership etc. Quite often this is where they fall - because they cannot take this step (or mess it up) - but that is another question.
Peter Wasser
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I agree - but the list does not cover small (or medium sized) companies that have been going for a while.
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Do they exist?
Peter Wasser
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Well there has to be some stage between "small startup" and "large commercial"... 
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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And yet few people have voted "other" it seems.
Peter Wasser
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Because people don't vote for a penguin for President of the USA, doesn't mean they don't exist, either!
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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..Small commercial Start-ups in most cases.
I have worked in big MNC's and never found it to be innovative, only big billing and comfort zone.
Also, worked at small IT inc as fresher and had good experience of learning, unlike Big Co's.
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// 99 bugs in the code
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I completely agree with you. You dont get the right recognition for the work done if you are in a big organization but small organizations and startups do help you grow and help you learn a lot.
Ravi Sant wrote: only big billing and comfort zone
Completely agree. The company which i work is not at all an employees organization, i would say its the stake holders organization. People here only talk about money.
Every new day is another chance to change your life.
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Problem is, you also want to get *paid* a lot. Perhaps I been around for a long time so getting paid sounds more important than *opportunity to learn* (hell any tech subjects I can find online learn on my own)
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