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Sadly not, unless you want to run one "Desktop" version and one "Modern" (i.e. Metro) version, from my reading. I believe MS sometimes use "Modern App" to describe a Store App/Universal App, whatever the **** you want to call that pile of steaming...
As I keep reiterating, if this is their idea of the future of Windows development, it may well be time to start reskilling on a different platform. I love the idea of Universal Apps, where most code can be shared between desktop/tablet/phone/HoloLens, but I don't like the restrictions that come with the only way of distributing an app to users (apart from in source form), except within an Enterprise.
That's (barely) acceptable for a phone or tablet, for a desktop O/S its just not acceptable.
If it was possible to set up a number of trusted stores/repositories, I'd have no issues at all.
(It's not even like its worked very well at keeping their own store free of cruft)
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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I read this as "Modern" apps in the sense of the UI formerly known as Metro.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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I can already do that with windows: just don't use "Modern". 
#SupportHeForShe If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Only 2 things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Windows XP is still hanging onto the No. 2 spot among all desktop OS Web traffic recorded by Net Applications in May. But together, Windows 8 and 8.1 outshine the 13-year-old OS. Better late than never
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A new InfoWorld survey of software developers highlights their growing influence in business -- and their keen awareness of challenges going forward. "You can't control what you can't measure"
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Say goodbye to Windows Media Center and control over your updates Your immortal soul Duh-dun-DUN! Oh wait, they've updated the EULA and removed that bit.
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Never used Windows Media Center, and updates... Nah, never did. So, what should I say goodbye to?
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Although the Pro and Enterprise editions will both be able to defer updates, Windows 10 Home users will not have the option. Updates will instead be downloaded and installed automatically as soon as they're available.
I will absolutely refuse to install W10 if that's the case. I don't want it downloading crap, I don't want it updating crap. I await for someone to write a patch this kills this process, otherwise, it's a big F.U. to Microsoft.
Marc
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Just don't use the home edition.
#SupportHeForShe If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Only 2 things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Just don't use the home edition
FTFY
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#SupportHeForShe If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Only 2 things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Just don't use the home edition.
Yeah, I wonder what "defer updates" means. Does it still suck up my bandwidth downloading? Can I defer indefinitely or do I get constant reminders and a time limit?
Blech. As a developer, I want a stable development environment, I do not Windows updating itself!
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: As a developer, I want a stable development environment, I do not Windows updating itself!
Which is why they expect you to be using Windows 10 Pro. 
Kevin
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#SupportHeForShe If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Only 2 things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Kevin McFarlane wrote: Which is why they expect you to be using Windows 10 Pro.
Fine with me, as long as I can shut the thing off.
Marc
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OK, I'll bite.
Why don't you want updates to the downloaded? I'm assuming it's not the download, it's the "download and restart at a time and place other than my choosing".
Would you actually install Win10 Home version instead of Pro?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: I'm assuming it's not the download, it's the "download and restart at a time and place other than my choosing".
It's more the horror stories that I've read occasionally here in the lounge about some updating essentially bricking the computer. I probably got burned by it years ago but don't remember. A more recent memory is when I was updating some RoR features tests  when all of a sudden, every single test started failing. Worked fine for on another dev's box, not on mine. Then it stopped working on her box too!
It took literally a week to realize that Firefox had updated and the old Selenium drivers were incompatible. After installing the Selenium updates, it took another week to fix the tests that were now broken with the new Selenium.
Two weeks, literally down the tubes. OK, sure, I got paid by the hour, but there are some lost hours that money can't compensate for.
So, I detest auto updates, even for security patches.
Chris Maunder wrote: Would you actually install Win10 Home version instead of Pro?
It's more a question of whether I'll even install W10 - I'm still happily on W7. I suppose eventually I will have to, and yeah, that'll mean Pro I suppose, but at this point, I don't know even know what the difference between the version are, I'll look that up one day, but not until I need to.
I figure, I'll download W10 from MSDN when it goes live and put it in some dusty corner where, if I leave the SSD baking in the sun for too long, it'll rot away to nothingness anyways.
Hey, by then, it'll be time for W11!
Marc
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It's actually been a long, long time since a Windows update has screwed me.
It's been a far, far shorter time that an Apple update has screwed me though 
If you get Pro then, really, it's a moot point. There will be apps that will allow you to tweak the UI and remove the tiles. We'll be able to make it usable, eventually.
I swore blind I would never touch Win8, but after Apple dropped support for Win7 for bootcamp I'm now on Win8.1. I added Stardock and it's actually usable. Sure, the way you have to go through 10 different sidebars, charms, Metro wizards and then, eventually, the same old Windows dialogs just to set some things that used to be available from a single right click is retarded, but they'll fix that, right? Right??
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: but they'll fix that, right? Right??
If Microsoft doesn't, somebody else probably will. After all, companies like Stardock exist because they make better UI's (though the only component I use from their suite is Fences, which is great!)
I do wish there was a clean separation between the OS and the "Windows" UI, so one could easily install whatever front-end one wanted. That would probably mean though that we would all be programming in GTK or Qt.
Marc
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It's the first thing I do on a new install:
"Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them"
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I'm wondering if The Verge got their article correct because that's not quite how I read the MS bullet.
Quote: Windows 10 Home users will have updates from Windows Update automatically available. Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise users will have the ability to defer updates.
Automatically available, and automatically installed aren't quite the same thing. This has me wondering if it's just a muddled statement of tweaking to the existing ability of enterprises to manage patch rollout, or the slow lane update version.
Without committing a crime against the English language, the worst interpretation of that I can get is that the home version is having the "Hide that patch forever" feature removed. If that's the case I've got mixed feelings. For actual patches this is probably a good thing since arbitrary indefinite deferral of specific patches adds to the combinatorial explosion that makes testing patches to make sure they don't break anything much worse. Genuinely broken patches get yanked within a day or so; so as long as you don't patch immediately you're generally safe. OTOH some of the stuff that MS currently pushes through windows update (silverblight, bing desktop, etc) is reasonable for users to say, "nope I don't want that ever". On the gripping hand, that stuff really should be pushed via the app store anyway. If they are doing that for W10, my main objection goes away.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: This has me wondering if it's just a muddled statement
Probably that. The media has a tendency to take already obscure information and obfuscate it even further.
Dan Neely wrote: On the gripping hand
Heh, haven't encountered that reference in a while.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Dan Neely wrote: On the gripping hand
Heh, haven't encountered that reference in a while.
You need to give me more setups to make trinary replies then. I don't always do it; but do a few times a year[^].
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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As annoying as the updates are, the missing MCE is a far bigger deal to me. I've been an avid Windows Media Center fan for many years. It runs every TV in my house (5 of them) right now. Even Netflix is handled through it. It's stable, works perfectly, and has a beautiful interface.
Seems that the best products MS ever makes are the ones they don't try and market. And the ones that get killed because no one uses them.
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I've tried WMC, but I like Kodi[^] (formerly XBMC) a lot better.
Runs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux, is free/open source, and has a TON of extensions.
The Windows installer is 32-bit only, though. There is also a Raspberry Pi image.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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