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GeneralNeed PHP/MySQL tutor... Pin
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alex.barylski18-May-05 12:31
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Christian Graus18-May-05 12:57
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Hockey wrote:
Normally I wouldn't disagree with much of what you say in reagrds to programming...

Hell, you're still entitled to an opinion, and you still are sure to know more than me in some areas.

Hockey wrote:
you have no idea what your talking about when it comes to web development...

I know as much as most people about ASP.NET, a little about asp, and I have only really glanced at PHP. Oh, and I've used J2EE. My comments are derived from the observation that no other platform I have seen supports OO and other methodologies that promote rapid development like ASP.NET does.

Hockey wrote:
Anything you can do in ASP.NET I can do in PHP...

Of course. My comments here aren't meant to suggest PHP can't create a site. Hell, we're all just generating HTML at the end of the day, right ? I'm talking about ease of use, ease of learning, and support for practices that promote easily maintained code.

Hockey wrote:
PHP seems to power most web sites...

Of course, because 'most' sites are written by people for their own use. Look instead at most big and/or commercial sites, and what do you find ? A lot of J2EE, a growing amount of ASP.NET, and some classic asp, for older sites ( like this one ).

Hockey wrote:
PHP I would argue is just as fast in execution if not faster than ASP.NET by virtue of the fact it's OSS and has so many eyes looking at it making optimization changes and the Zend engine likely being written in C for a Linux system. I'm not sure how the two compare byte for byte but in all honesty how can a Windows system execute as quick as a cut down *nix machine running only the required software???

You're talking about the speed of *nix vs Windows, this has nothing to do with PHP/ASP.NET. Mono will even this playing field, assuming such an advantage exists. REsponse times are fast enough that I care more about maintainable sites than fractions of a second.

Hockey wrote:
PHP lacks in some RAD/Development areas...like it's OOP support is poor, but that's ok...PHP5 is alot better...besides PHP usually attracts more experienced Linux developers...

This is my point, this is the reason I'd suggest that someone with a C++ background especially learn ASP.NET instead of trying to learn PHP.

Hockey wrote:
There is a definite lack in quality IDE's...I still sometimes use VC++ 6.- IDE

Yes, and I was talking about ease of learning/use.

Hockey wrote:
BTW-Hosting is half the cost...

I can get asp.net hosting for next to nothing. Who cares if I can save < $100 a year on hosting ? Equate that cost into the extra hours learning/writing in PHP.

Hockey wrote:
As for MySQL? You can use other databases...quit easily...however there are some mega major web sites (so I understand) which are currently using MySQL...so it can't be that bad...

When I looked into it, there was no stored procedure support, and it costs money most of the time, most people who use it are probably stealing it.

Hockey wrote:
I don't think so...[^]

LOL - well, I could argue quality of sites, but the truth is you probably won that one Smile | :)

Hockey wrote:
I think M$'s advertising is paying off...they've brain washed you

No, I just know more about the areas I focus on. I'm sure there are CP equivelants in PHP, but I've never seen them, because I don't use it, I use ASP.NET because I'd hate to have to write sites of the size that I work on without the support it gives me. Not because I can't, but because the better the tool, the easier it is to manage complexity.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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