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Yes,but the salary is very very low in china. equal to 10% European programmer's salary.
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John.Jiang wrote: nd have MapPoint,Gps,CDMA,GSM location services programming experience
Try Rentacoder and other related Freelancer sites
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cheers,
Alok Gupta
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thank you for your advice
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if any persons or companies want to set up a company in china , i can help to set up a company,look for employees and others.
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Anyone can offer me a job?Thanks
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You can try to register at www.Project4Hire.com and try to get hired for some of the projects listed.
Best of luck
Project4Hire.com - Find Freelance Progammers and Graphic Designers for all your project needs
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I have been going crazy with trying to figure out how I can get back into the workplace after being gone for 3 years. I worked with VB6 on a desktop application 3 years ago, and worked for 3 years on a VB 3 application. But I have been programming for 14 years in other programming languages.
So I am trying to teach myself C#. I would like to take a test in C# to prove to myself and to prospective employers that I have a certain level of compentency in C#. I have no work experience with C#. I have one online source for C# (learnvisualstudio.com) that is a fairly cheap and descent source for teaching myself C#. I also have 3-4 C# books to help.
So I looked into the Microsoft Certification and there is a new path to follow that involves something called MCPD (with specialties in Web or Windows or Enterprise). Many of the test are in beta or about to be released in the next few months.
The problem is that I have been told that the test 70-548 replaces the 70-315. But when I look at the skills that will be measured by the 70-548 I immediately run into trouble. The first skill talks about "proof of concept". I have no idea what proof of concept is. I did find some microsoft papers and it looks like proof of concept is along the lines of building a prototype? I am tempted to take the 70-315, but it is not based upon .net 2.0. I am going to post a separate question on proof-of-concept... but it is a good example of my frustration.
So I feel a bit lost right now in my direction. I could just keep on studying the 4-5 C# books that I have and be ok with this. But I was hoping to take some sort of test to prove my knowledge.
Another option I am exploring is taking a class because putting the class on my resume, or being able to say I took a class might instill some confidence in a prospective employer (and maybe myself also).
Any advice from anyone? Hopefully this is the proper place to post this question?
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No great solutions here, and I realise this is very late, but I was in your position at the same time, so here is my experience.
I passed 70-315 last year because I wanted to move out of support and into C# development (70-548 replaces 70-316, by the way - Windows-based programming). I also had a feeling that finding a job after having a baby would be a bit of a challenge, so I went for the "easiest" exam given my personal experience with web development. I can't say it got me the job I wanted - my current position involves supporting Microsoft Word! - but it did help to "fill in the blank" on my CV a little, and I got some positive feedback from recruitment agencies (not that they would know 70-315 from a CompTIA A+ - but at least they were willing to put my CV forward).
I have to say getting a job when there's a gap on your CV is an uphill struggle, whatever worthwhile thing you've been doing since your last job. Just getting to the interview stage was a pain - Recruiters loathe it when they can't tell at a glance what you've been up to, so anything you can put to fill in your three years might get you past the initial hurdle. If you have the time and the money, I say go for the exam - I'm sure decent study guides will turn up soon.
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Thank-you for the words of encouragement and unfortunately you are not too late! I am still studying C#, ADO programming w/SQL. But I have decided to abandon the idea of taking the test right now. Although I am using the topics listed by Microsoft as a guideline to my studies. A class still might be warranted because it does stop me from delving too deeply into a particular topic.
Another option I am exploring is getting some sort of non-paying or intern-type position. It should end up being a symbiotic-type relationship in the end. They get some work for free, and I get some training. It is hard though to find a company that has the initial time to put up front to provide the resources I need to get started... but then they get a reward in some free work (eventually!)
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I used to have a high opinion about the CMM5 level companies in India. Recently we interviewed a Wipro Manager for one of our .NET onsite requirements. From his resume it looks like he delivered 3 .NET Projects. In interview he was not able to answer even basic .Net Questions. He managed to answer some Project Management questions that too after lot of hesitation.
I am just wondering about their standards.
Elite
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I think that 'their standards' is a horribly racist thing to say. Would you like to be judged by the standards of the worst developer in your country ? Would you expect to live up to the standards of the best ?
Given how cheap Indians come, a lot of people are desperately hoping they all suck, but the truth is some are good and some are not, just like developers in every country.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Well said!
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Elite2000 wrote: Recently we interviewed a Wipro Manager for one of our .NET onsite requirements. From his resume it looks like he delivered 3 .NET Projects.
Very susprising? actaully some people can code but can't elobrorate on that.. now take a situation, a MBA can talk on any topics but he couldn't code... actually many people suffering similiar problem they can do good coding, fast bug fixing and implementing logic but can't do good talking....
I believe as you interviwing a MANAGER post, you must be very well know there is much difference between good coding and coding.
I too suffer similiar problem .
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
cheers,
Alok Gupta
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SushantMathur wrote: Well said Aalok...
thanks Sir, but little anamoly, Actually name is Alok.. secondly your website is really very great
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cheers,
Alok Gupta
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In interview we didn't ask that guy to code. We just asked him couple of basic .NET questions. Without knowing anything about .Net Technology i am not sure how we can talk to our customers about implementing their projects. I feel that guy is not even fit for a entry level programmer position. We have interviewed couple of Wipro candidates for our developer position. I don't think they are so great what they claim to be. They are charging hefty fee from their customers for ordinary quality with their brand name.
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Elite20000 wrote: In interview we didn't ask that guy to code
Around a year back I undergone a Interview, where Interviewer given me computer and given me three Program on different Concept i.e. Multithreading, Graphics and DS.
Elite20000 wrote: I feel that guy is not even fit for a entry level programmer position.
Great !!!
Elite20000 wrote: They are charging hefty fee from their customers for ordinary quality with their brand name.
How many person have you taken man!
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
cheers,
Alok Gupta
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Hey you like my web site, thanks for the compliment ALOK(Right...)
and Elite2000 seems to be so much angry but as Alok has already said that some guys have knowledge but they are not able to express their knowledge...
or might be he knows only to deal with clients without going into much technical details..but don't blame other guys in his company,this is not fare Elite2000..
Sushant Mathur
Bangalore,
INDIA.
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SushantMathur wrote: Hey you like my web site, thanks for the compliment ALOK(Right...)
Mention Not for Thanks and Yeap for Name
SushantMathur wrote: might be he knows only to deal with clients without going into much technical details.
yeah you seems to right.. but i believe Elite is looking for developer position !
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
cheers,
Alok Gupta
VC Forum Q&A :- I/ IV
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Elite20000 wrote: I know Wipro's hiring process very well. Some of our senior people are ex-employees of wipro and Infosys.
Frankly Speaking i never applied for Wipro and Infosys ... I have given this interview to small company situated in Delhi.. though i selected there .. but...
Elite20000 wrote: Don't think others like you
confusing .. so you are HR manager
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
cheers,
Alok Gupta
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Hey Elite initially you were Elite2000 now you have become Elite20000..
why this??;P
Sushant Mathur
Bangalore,
INDIA.
-- modified at 3:59 Friday 24th February, 2006
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SushantMathur wrote: Hey Elite initially you were Elite2000 now you have become Elite20000..
He is new Improved Model of Elitometer (Terminator )
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
cheers,
Alok Gupta
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yes... you can say he is Elite-"RELOADED" or Elite-"REVOLUTION"
Hey Elite plz don't mind..just kidding
Sushant Mathur
Bangalore,
INDIA.
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Ya! It's happening in many Organizations.
I think this is due to people are not getting updated to latest technologies.
and Organizations are promoting them based on their seniority and personal relations with in organization
"Every morning I check Forbes 40 richest Indians list , if i'm not there I go to work."
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