Work Issues

Steve Maier5-Apr-07 5:57

5-Apr-07 5:57

Most colleges will have you take things like physical education classes and liberal arts. Some people feel that those are irrelevant courses, but I don't. I have interviewed people that can from Devry that only had technical classes. I was not impressed with them at all. They lacked a depth that you get from having those other courses. For example, having a liberal arts course where you get up in front of people on a regular basis and present things to a group gives you skills that you will not find sitting in front of a PC and coding all day.

You should at least get an associates degree. From there you MIGHT be able to find someone to give you a job programming and that would pay for the rest of your schooling. Having that piece of paper shows employers that you can follow instruction, complete tasks that you start and are assigned. These are things that are important to people. I know of places that have hired people without a degree, but the pay will be ALOT less.

Steve Maier

BMP19805-Apr-07 8:44

5-Apr-07 8:44

Can you give me the name of the place that hiring people with low salary

BMP

Steve Maier5-Apr-07 9:11

5-Apr-07 9:11

I said HAD hired and not are hiring right now. There are a lot of places to look for low pawing jobs, such as your local newspaper. I know that in today's electronic age we hate to think that the newspaper would give us anything we cannot get online, but sometimes they do list entry level positions. Search monster for entry level programming position.

Steve Maier

Experience vs Certification

Dan Neely5-Apr-07 9:28

Dan Neely

5-Apr-07 9:28

Without a degree, you're probably only going to be able to get a job for a really small company that's making a hiring decision off a portfolio of stuff you've written while ignoring your lack of paper. Among actual working IT people (as opposed to HR and PHBs) most certs aren't seen as particularly valuable as an indication of your ability to do anything other than pass a test. Without a degree they might be more important, even if you don't pay for the tests actually learning the content covered (as opposed to being able to regurgitate test answers) can give you a decent overview of the technology in question.

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Certification in C++

Andy Rama23-Mar-07 21:19

Andy Rama

23-Mar-07 21:19

Which Certification should I give for C++?

Can anyone suggest me the material, paper-questions, or any other helpful information for C++ Certification?

Re: Certification in C++

Michael Dunn25-Mar-07 9:07

Michael Dunn

25-Mar-07 9:07

I've never been asked about certifications in all my jobs and interviews. Don't waste your money.

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BMP198030-Mar-07 8:26

30-Mar-07 8:26

Hi

I'm a new member of codeproject.I completed MCA.

I've no experience to get a job.Is certification help me to get a job

pls help me

Thanks & Regards
Bim

Vasudevan Deepak Kumar1-Apr-07 5:29

Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

1-Apr-07 5:29

The knowledge and indepth experience helps and not just papyrus products, which a local shack or training center can 'purchase' for a couple of exchange of bills. At least with respect to India, certifications have got lesser values nowdays with huge organizations since the amount of fake certifications have been steadily increasing. Personally from the Interview panel, I can figure out whether the candidate is actually skilled or not, in less than 5 minutes, regardless of the flashy certifications that he may brandish.

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BMP19801-Apr-07 6:36

1-Apr-07 6:36

If someone do not have any experience what should he/she do to get a IT job?

Steve Maier5-Apr-07 5:48

5-Apr-07 5:48

Volunteer on some projects (open source, community websites, etc) and build up your experience. Some places that I have interviewed like that I wrote articles for CP and others liked that I did .NET researching on the side for my own projects too.

Steve Maier

BMP19805-Apr-07 8:41

5-Apr-07 8:41

sorry, I didn't understand what is community website

BMP

Steve Maier5-Apr-07 9:07

5-Apr-07 9:07

hmmmm.... CodeProject, any forums on Yahoo or Google groups, a local church/club, take your pick.

Steve Maier

BMP19805-Apr-07 9:17

5-Apr-07 9:17

How start programming in an open source project?
I have a Masters degree in computer applications but have not used my programming knowledge/experience in the last couple of years. I want to re-sharpen my skills and think participating in some open source projects would help and be very interesting; but I really don't know where to start.

-- do I just find a project I want to help with? (where do I find one)
-- is there a community for each project that I need to present myself to?
-- if there is a project I'd like to help with, where do I begin?
-- where can I help smaller projects and warm up?

I hope you get the gist of this question, any guidance would be GREATLY appreciate

BMP

Dan Neely5-Apr-07 9:32

Dan Neely

5-Apr-07 9:32

pick an open source project, actually pick several. Look at it's bug list. Start fixing stuff and submitting it back to be included in the official build. You can find a mess of oss projects of all sizes on sourceforge. The reason for not focusing on a single project is that you're really not going to be able to tell from the outside if the project is actually welcoming newcomers or will simply ignore any submissions from outside an insular clique.

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C^{le^aK}O The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem].

Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

Steve Maier5-Apr-07 9:37

5-Apr-07 9:37

You could look through the projects on sourceforge or codeplex and find one that you might be interested in. If you are interested in gaming, there are some game engines out there that are open source, if you like databases, there are database projects etc.... Look at the bugs for the project and the source and try to fix one. If you can then send in the fix to the owners of the project. If you do that, they might invite you to join them or ask if you want to be a part of it.

If you have a pet project you could always write it and put it up on sourceforge or codeplex. This is a slow way because other people may or may not look at the project or download it at all.

There are sites like topcoder.com[^] that give you little assignments and tests to do to rank you. They also have projects that you can bid on. RentACoder.com[^] is another site where you can do little projects for others. Even if you do not get a bid you can still try to do the project on your own in some cases just to improve your skills.

Steve Maier

BMP198018-May-07 10:10